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Posted By: Hzgray 292 Harmonic Balancer - 10/31/15 04:51 PM
Decided to adjust my timing on this nice Saturday morn and realized that the timing mark was way off. The timing mark was visibly slipping when using the timing light.

I’ve attached a photo of the installed damper where you can tell that the inner and outer parts of the damper are no longer flush. The left hand side of the photo is closest to the engine block and you can see the inner ring due to outer ring walking off. This happened w/ ~200 miles on the engine. Glad I noticed it before it went through something - like my face when I was revving up the engine checking total timing with the timing light. The damper had been newly reconditioned before install by a known damper rebuild shop.

Question: If I get this fixed by the company is it inevitable that this will happen again using a stock damper? Engine is a warmed up 292; no drag racing but wind her out now and then.

Thanks

Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585 Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 10/31/15 06:58 PM
I would be reluctant to have it repaired again since it failed so soon after being renewed. I would source another one rather than chance this one again.
Posted By: TJ's Chevy Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 10/31/15 07:34 PM
Here's one from Summit Racing:

www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-594-031/overview/make/chevrolet
Posted By: Hzgray Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/01/15 12:11 AM
Thanks for advice and link to replacement. The folks that renewed this one have offered to make it right if I want. Seemed interested in checking it out to see why it failed.
Posted By: Tony P Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/02/15 07:51 AM
I just installed the same damper from Summit on my 292..It's made in China but the quality looks good...
Posted By: Beater of the Pack Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/02/15 03:36 PM
I'd send it back and have them check it over. If it is one of the companies that specialize in these like Damper Dude or Damper Doctor I'd trust their work. Stuff happens. I broke two on my 270 before I found that my crappy motor mount was allowing it to hit the frame under torque.
Posted By: Tony P Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/04/15 10:23 AM
Original dampers were engineered for a particular engine using a particular rubber harness and weight....What are the odds that any new dampers or rebuilt dampers have anything close to original harmonic dampening characteristics ?
Posted By: Hzgray Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/11/15 10:20 AM
The folks that did the rework encouraged me to send it back for them to examine and repair. Not sure how many inline 6 dampers they have done but said they couldn't remember one of their dampers failing like that. I did tell them it was on a hopped up 292. Seems like they care about their product and view it as a challenge. That appeals to me so I sent it back to them for another try. We'll see what they say.
Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585 Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/11/15 09:09 PM
Good point Tony. Also to consider, because it is a hopped up 292, its demands and needs for a different than stock rubber hardness is highly likely, and that rebuilding it with the same rubber type probably won't last any longer. Chances are that they aren't familiar with anything but OEM style balancers. Even for hot small blocks and big blocks that's ok, but for a 6 cylinder, the dynamics for balancer construction and longevity are much, much different.
Posted By: tlowe #1716 Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/12/15 09:32 PM
Hzgray,
What company did you use? It's nice to hear they will stand behind their product/service.
I am having a heck of a time getting quality dampers to keep instock.
Thinking about sending out all the old originals in my stock to be rebuilt.
Posted By: mshaw230 Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 11/13/15 12:20 AM
Is this something I should put on the list to replace "just because"? It looks like the timing position of my spare engine ('78?) is different than my '67. There may be some incompatibility between the crank, balancer and/or the tin.
Posted By: Hzgray Re: 292 Harmonic Balancer - 12/24/15 05:07 PM
Been a little bit since I had my 292 damper slip. Damper Doctor stood behind their product and reworked the damper. I'll keep an eye on it but looks good so far. I have no problem recommending them for those wanting to rebuild their harmonic balancers.
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