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Posted By: Jmay 230 or 250 ? - 07/13/16 09:09 PM
Picked up another 6 today the owner didn't know what it was. The block casting #s say it can be either 230 or 250. So I got these of the distributor pad f1024ta. Anyone know what that means?
Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585 Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/14/16 06:43 PM
The fastest way to tell the difference between the 230's and 250's is to look inside one of the spark plug holes at the piston tops. 230's will have a flat top and 250's will have a dished piston. Those #'s on the distributor pad may or may not point you in the right direction, but in just a few minutes, the piston will give you a better clue.
Posted By: mshaw230 Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/15/16 01:35 AM
Originally Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585
The fastest way to tell the difference between the 230's and 250's is to look inside one of the spark plug holes at the piston tops. 230's will have a flat top and 250's will have a dished piston. Those #'s on the distributor pad may or may not point you in the right direction, but in just a few minutes, the piston will give you a better clue.


Better yet, overhaul the engine, guess that it's a 250 and buy new pistons. Ignore that the pistons don't reach the deck, put it together anyways and see if it runs like crap and has awful compression. If it does, then you'll know it's a 230. Not as fast as looking at the top of the pistons, though. :-)
Posted By: Jmay Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/15/16 11:16 AM
Originally Posted By: mshaw230
Originally Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585
The fastest way to tell the difference between the 230's and 250's is to look inside one of the spark plug holes at the piston tops. 230's will have a flat top and 250's will have a dished piston. Those #'s on the distributor pad may or may not point you in the right direction, but in just a few minutes, the piston will give you a better clue.


Better yet, overhaul the engine, guess that it's a 250 and buy new pistons. Ignore that the pistons don't reach the deck, put it together anyways and see if it runs like crap and has awful compression. If it does, then you'll know it's a 230. Not as fast as looking at the top of the pistons, though. :-)


Think I will pass on that method! Is that how you found out? Lol!
Posted By: Beater of the Pack Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/15/16 09:42 PM
It's not a problem. If you get a big enough blower you can still stuff the cylinders full. cool Remove all doubt and buy a 250 crank for the build. smile
Posted By: TJ's Chevy Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/16/16 01:26 AM
A 230 with 250 pistons would be a neat twin turbo engine. laugh
Posted By: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/16/16 02:35 PM
It would not be so neat. It would not have any guench.
Posted By: oldwildman Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/16/16 07:12 PM
U PUT A 250 PISTON IN A 230-*WILL STICK UP .104 IN OUT OF BLOCK
Posted By: oldwildman Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/16/16 08:27 PM
http://dayton.craigslist.org/pts/5664712888.html
Posted By: mshaw230 Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/18/16 01:15 AM
Well, I didn't do this personally, but it's what I discovered. But hey, it got me to convert to a 250, bump up the compression, port the head and increase intake size, and put in a bigger CAM. It's a whole lot more engine now than it used to be. In the picture you can see how low the carbon rings are.

Anybody need a leftover 250 short block? Well, it comes with a 230 crankshaft.

Posted By: Jmay Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/18/16 02:31 PM
Yikes 3:1 compression!
Posted By: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/18/16 09:04 PM
Originally Posted By: mshaw230
Well, I didn't do this personally, but it's what I discovered. But hey, it got me to convert to a 250, bump up the compression, port the head and increase intake size, and put in a bigger CAM. It's a whole lot more engine now than it used to be. In the picture you can see how low the carbon rings are.

Anybody need a leftover 250 short block? Well, it comes with a 230 crankshaft.


I conquer. That is why I stated they 250 Pistons with a 230 crank will not have any quench. Meaning the Pistons will be down the hole at TDC
Posted By: TJ's Chevy Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/18/16 11:31 PM
Originally Posted By: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank
It would not be so neat. It would not have any guench.


I know, I was joking. lol Hence the big smilie face.
Posted By: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/19/16 02:34 AM
That was not directed to you, the other guy states a 250 piston with a 230 crank will come out above the deck in a few posts.
Posted By: oldwildman Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/24/16 05:23 PM
DUDE

WRONG AGAIN------THATS WHERE THE TOP RING STOPS--NOT PISTON TOP

BRING PISTON TO TDC -PUT STRAIGHT EDGE ACROSS --USE FEELER GAUGE
Posted By: oldwildman Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/24/16 05:43 PM
GO HERE SEND EMAIL

http://dayton.craigslist.org/pts/5664712888.html
Posted By: mshaw230 Re: 230 or 250 ? - 07/24/16 11:19 PM
Not to belabor the point, but I will. Piston #1 is at TDC in the picture. I just got lucky with that photo because I was checking out whether or not the cam was installed a notch or two off and left it at TDC. CAM was fine. We measured at TDC with a feeler gauge just under 0.025", maybe more like 0.0237 or something like that. The stock piston sits below the deck a tad.

I'm sure somebody could do the math, but I use it for entertainment purpose, as I intended in this posting. It makes for a good ice breaker too when you meet another car guy. "You wouldn't believe what this mechanic did to the car. blah blah blah". We all love to commiserate about awful machine shop experiences. Just like ghost stories around a campfire. :-)

My engine is now built nicely, able to deliver well above the 130HP or 140HP that was original. How sweet it is.

Mark
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