I would like to know if there is anywhere to purchase a new 12 port crossflow head for a 302 gmc . I just bought one that I'm going to put into a completely handbuilt roadster . I have been looking at the waynemfgco.com website and trying to contact them for about two weeks but there is no answer . any help would be greatly appreciated .

Unfortunately for all of us Wayne Manufacturing is no longer operating as a business. If you happen to find a 12 port for sale,you better keep it to yourself because we'll all be chasing it too.

Unfortunate is right.

I'm told there's a 'whole lot' of them sitting in a warehouse. These are castings fully machined ready to assemble etc.

It's realy a long story.

I think there was a SNAFU with the rocker arms as the orginal (1946) ones used 41 Buick (straight 8) units. Custom replacements were "in the works" when things stopped.

Like Drew said though; "don't expect them anytime soon".....

i previously understood that Arias had rocker arms and complete rocker arm assemblies for that head, i have the Arias assembly for the "stock" head on my 302. i had assumed that Mr Zaillian bought all of the Arias parts with the tooling for the heads.

God's Peace to you.

d
Inliner #1450

Don;

He may have, but the Buick ones were what they all used.

Since there (Buick) not around today 'custom' ones were needed etc. These were to be made from 'aircraft' aluminum stock I was told. The pivot point was slightly different too as the Buick ones caused the pushrods to hit the head/block sometimes.

I don't know who the maker of the custom ones (for the new Wayne MFG Co.) was going to be.

I think it (rocker MFG) was in R&D or the final phase, when things all stopped.

To clarify the question/concern with 12-Port rocker arm assemblies:

The early Wayne Chev 12-Port heads utilized the 40 series Buick rockers with the custom aluminum stands.

The Wayne, Horning/Fisher, & the Howard 12 Port GMC heads all utilized the stock GMC rocker arm assemblies.

The new Wayne Mfg Howard/Arias head utilizes a roller rocker assembly with custom stands. The plan was to utilize the same roller rockers on the new Wayne Chev 12-Port heads (which would reduce inventory requirements at Wayne Mfg)

Hope the above helps

Pat.

Yes Sir.

Thank you Pat.

What surprises me is that they didnt have these bugs worked out 5 years ago when they started selling. Its the same old question: Which is worse, a cigarette and no match or vise versa? Same net result...

I'm told they were.

The "whole deal" here is very 'hush-hush' as there are several people involved with the project in total.

All these guys are "financially independent" and there were plenty of orders for complete units. So they didn't "go broke" or anything close. They own all the MFG rights too.

Somehow it happened in the (parts sales) portion of the operation as they couldn't fill these orders as their commitment was mainly to customers buying complete units.

All of these orders have been filled or the monies refunded, or so I have been told.

Right now-today; It's anybodys guess how or when it all will get 'sorted out' etc.

Good luck to all of them and their project.

This whole "HUSH-HUSH" thing with Wayne Mfg is something I just don't understand. What makes the difference if it is 'several people involved' or just one or two? It's been about a year now or more and nobody can get an update on what is going on, or if there is any future for the 12 port heads and other related products.

I find it hard to believe that most, if not all the people involved in the creation of Wayne Mfg were not closely involved with the Inliners International, but yet have failed to let other members of the Inliners know exactly what is going on. This is a shame!

It would be nice if someone would put out some reliable information about what is going on with Wayne Mfg and the future of the 12 port heads and the other related products that were in the making. I say again, RELIABLE information.

I would think that such an update is 'past due' to all the good people who help support Wayne Mfg and who also sincerely wish them good luck in resolving whatever problems they had or may have.

I think the 'hush-hush' should be broken, and an official update is 'past due'.

Ed Graham

Dear Ed;

The 'club' had nothing to do with it financialy, they (Wayne MFG Co.) advertised here is all.

I have no knowledge of why things are "hush-hush" as they (investors) wish it that way.

Perhaps those involved will advise us all further soon.

Dear John;
I guess I wasn't clear on what I had said. Not to indicate that the Inliners 'club' had anything to do with Wayne Mfg, but that maybe some of the people (and/or investors) connected with Wayne Mfg, were maybe involved with, or members of, the Inliners club.

I believe one of the purposes for the Inliners club (correct me if I'm wrong) was for, people helping other people and shairing information on the subjects of inline engines and other related subjects.

So, if any of the 'people or investors' were members or active readers of this Inliners club, then this so called "hush-hush" is an injustice to all the other people who read and participate in trying to help others in their shairing of information. Many of the Inliners members and readers 'including myself' had supported Wayne Mfg by placing orders and paying for their products only to be denied receiving any of their products. And we got no explanation as to why. That was the start of this so called "hush-hush"

I myself do not need to know any of the details of who did what, or what went wrong. I would just like to know if there are any plans or progress being made towards keeping the 12 port heads and related speed equiptment alive?
Is there a regrouping of Wayne Mfg?
Is Wayne Mfg for sale?
Is Wayne Mfg ever going to re-open?
If so, when?
?????????????
There is no reason why any of the investors should "wish" that information like this needs to be "hush-hush".

In closing, if any of the Wayne Mfg people or investors happen to read this post, I would like to ask them to be responsible enough to respond.

Ed Graham

Hello Ed, I'm afraid to pass judgement or offer a detailed reply would open one up to a potential law suit. There seems to have been a whole lot of "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hambuger today". Everything is tied up. The patterns are being held, pending payment of foundry costs. The heads are being held, pending payment of machineing costs. The only one who knows whats going on is Nick Zallian and he is hard to reach. He is the only one who can answer any of your questions. At this point, there seems to be a lot of missing money and no explainations. Nick is the only one who can answer these questions for all of us.

I wish it could be better news, Armond

Is there a regrouping of Wayne Mfg?
Is Wayne Mfg for sale?
Is Wayne Mfg ever going to re-open?
If so, when?

Wow.

Hmmmmm. Nick Zaillian - hard to reach? Is he a longtime member of inliners? Who is he? Who knows him?

Gentlemen;

Nick's the guy that put up the money, effort, time, legal expense and MFG cost(s) to make this (Wayne MFG Co.)resurface. He will advise us when ready, I'm sure.

Till then we just have to be patient.

PS: "I want a head too".....

Fergusons have a limited number of new 12-Port GMC heads available. If you are interested contact me and I will provide you the details.

Pat Swanson (my phone number and E-mail address are in the club directory)