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Posted By: ABW 1/8 mile - 12/02/14 07:23 PM
Anybody running a 1/8 mile drag racing with a 250 or 292? If so what kind of time and can you drive it on the street?
Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/02/14 08:29 PM
Here's Twisted6 recently in his 250 powered Chevy II.
Twisted6 quarter mile run
Posted By: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank Re: 1/8 mile - 12/04/14 11:03 PM
Larry,

what intake & carb do you have on your friends 250 engine?

MBHD
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 02:16 AM
I am running a stock long block with offy intake and 390 carb, stovebolt header. WIDE ratio 4 speed and 2.41 gears. I have bad traction I need a posi, low gears and traction bars. I ran a 12.8 with bad traction. I bet I would knock a second off with traction, and more with a gear swap too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUiEzOkJlaY&feature=youtu.be
Posted By: sparks Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 10:22 AM
Hey 63, do you have any info on that bantam you were running? I`m running one a lot like it.It does look like you need gears and tires but you might start breaking parts if you can get it to hook up.
Posted By: gbauer Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 11:31 AM
Originally Posted By: straight axle 63
I am running a stock long block with offy intake and 390 carb, stovebolt header. WIDE ratio 4 speed and 2.41 gears. I have bad traction I need a posi, low gears and traction bars. I ran a 12.8 with bad traction. I bet I would knock a second off with traction, and more with a gear swap too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUiEzOkJlaY&feature=youtu.be


Looks like you have the same set up and problems I have. A fellow one-wheel wonder!

With mine I'm running a 2.5" single exhaust through a flowmaster 10. Biggest difference is I have a powerglide. I haven't put it down a track and likely won't do so any time soon.
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 02:13 PM
Originally Posted By: gbauer
Originally Posted By: straight axle 63
I am running a stock long block with offy intake and 390 carb, stovebolt header. WIDE ratio 4 speed and 2.41 gears. I have bad traction I need a posi, low gears and traction bars. I ran a 12.8 with bad traction. I bet I would knock a second off with traction, and more with a gear swap too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUiEzOkJlaY&feature=youtu.be


Looks like you have the same set up and problems I have. A fellow one-wheel wonder!

With mine I'm running a 2.5" single exhaust through a flowmaster 10. Biggest difference is I have a powerglide. I haven't put it down a track and likely won't do so any time soon.

That I do. Powerglide's are a bad mix for a sixer. Gearing to get the car moving off the line is key to low a ET's IMHO a wide ratio 4 or 5 speed are a key piece to having a quick cars.
Posted By: intergrated j 78 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 03:51 PM
63 what are the gear ratios in your trans? Do you shift just once in the 1/8th? Tire size? I thought I had it bad with a 2.73 rear end. Jay 6155
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 06:32 PM
Originally Posted By: intergrated j 78
63 what are the gear ratios in your trans? Do you shift just once in the 1/8th? Tire size? I thought I had it bad with a 2.73 rear end. Jay 6155

My gear ratios are 3.50,2.47,1.65 and 1.0 205/60 15 tire.
I plan on dropping to 4.10 posi and going to a 215/65 15 tire with jegster liftbars.
Right now I tried featheing throttle, did not work, the I tried shifing to second right off the line (the video) I got in to third and then bogged down frown Right now with traction I should just be getting into third at about 60-65mph. My goal speed is 75-80mph. I hope to make it with gears and traction. I am a bit worried about the strength of the Saginaw though. I may end up having going with a T10 a some point. I launched @ about 2500rpm.
Posted By: THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 06:38 PM
Don't overlook your rear leaf spring suspension. Some things to consider would be:

stiffer bushings
traction bars
more leaves
better shocks
chassis preload
softer tires
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 06:49 PM
I am all over it. Right now I have air shocks in the and a "performance" street tire. I have mono leafs now, and stock bushings. I plan on going to multi leafs and poly bushings. I recently acquired a 65 Nova with a brand new 350 so that is going to be my driver and the 62 will be a pure race car.
Posted By: Twisted6 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 08:02 PM
Originally Posted By: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank
Larry,

what intake & carb do you have on your friends 250 engine?

MBHD


We are running my old Clifford Dual 4 with the 450 holley carbs.
Posted By: Twisted6 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 08:08 PM
Originally Posted By: straight axle 63
I am all over it. Right now I have air shocks in the and a "performance" street tire. I have mono leafs now, and stock bushings. I plan on going to multi leafs and poly bushings. I recently acquired a 65 Nova with a brand new 350 so that is going to be my driver and the 62 will be a pure race car.


straight Axle 63
In my 64 I have the stock Mono springs air shocks and cal-trac
Bars & Changed the bushings. And 90/10 80/20 70/30 Adjust able shocks in the front set at 90/10. So I don't feel the need to go to a Multi leaf. I have launched this car hard enough a few times with all four tires off the ground.
Posted By: intergrated j 78 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/05/14 11:42 PM
If it is going to be race only now how about a spool in the rear? That would force both tires to spin. Jay 6155
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 12:33 AM
Thanks Larry. You say Air Shocks you get laughed at. I will keep the stock springs and upgrade the bushings. As far as a spool I have a 7.5" 10 bolt and they do not make spools for this axle. So I would need to replace axle. Plus I plan on some street driving, I need to find a cheep and easy way to go to 4.10's Yes I know those two do not go together.
Posted By: THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 12:42 AM
Originally Posted By: straight axle 63
I need to find a cheep and easy way to go to 4.10's


Nine inch.
Plentiful.
Cheap as any.
Ubiquitous.
Probably available in the width and spring pads you need (Bronco?)
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 12:47 AM
57 wagon housing is the correct width, but they suck up WAY too much horse power.
Posted By: panic Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 05:31 PM
The 9" also has pretty high power loss for its gear size (more than its opposite, the 8-3/4" Chrysler diff) due to the very low pinion stem position.
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 05:42 PM
Originally Posted By: panic
The 9" also has pretty high power loss for its gear size (more than its opposite, the 8-3/4" Chrysler diff) due to the very low pinion stem position.

That is why it is LOW on my list of axles. I know the 8.25 mopar out of a Jeep Cherokee are the same width as my Nova, they also have 3.55 or 3.90. There is great aftermarket support for them too!
Posted By: ABW Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 07:01 PM
That is good to know. I have 8.2 10 bolt in the car now with a 308 gear. I just picked up a Ford 9 for nothing. Still think I will keep the CHEVYII rear end. Would like to build 7 to 8 second car in a 1/8 and still drive it on the weekend. Thank y'all for the information. Keep it coming.
Posted By: Twisted6 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 08:51 PM
Strange makes a GM 9in 3rd member BUT your ride needs to be under 3000Lbs. I asked because this is what I wanted to do for my 64. One day I may??? get it under that but right now I'm having fun with my all Steel Body.
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 10:05 PM
ABW, That is close to what I want too, but I want little slower, 8.5 to 9 for me.

Larry, is that the 12 bolt gears in a 3rd member for a 9" housing?
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 10:24 PM
Larry, is this it?
http://www.strangeengineering.net/12-blt-drop-out-u-l-steel-spool-standard-gear-yoke.html
Posted By: intergrated j 78 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 11:21 PM
I know that it's a little off topic, but does anyone know how the late GM 8.5 10 bolt rear end does in the power loss dept? Jay 6155
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/06/14 11:41 PM
They are really pretty good. For a inline car I feel they are about perfect.
Posted By: Twisted6 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/07/14 08:53 AM


That would be it and now that I thought about it a little more I think it is 2800lbs for car weight. Which means I need to lose all the glass and some sheet metal parts. to get mine under the 2800. But once I get time & money to redo my stock front frame Some of that will already be gone. Tubing my front frame will drop a few hundred lbs. to start with. And if I go with Lexan for the glass their goes a few more lbs. So getting the weight down I don't feel will be that hard to do.
Posted By: straight axle 63 Re: 1/8 mile - 12/07/14 12:48 PM
That is great. At some point I am going to gut the interior, and replace all the sheetmetal I can with fiberglass, add subframe connectors and go from there. Head cam and intake/exhaust (intake and exhause already done) are the only engine mods I plan on. I want a dead nuts reliable car that I can get in and race, plus drive a bit here and there on the road. ABW has a great goal, and I hope that he makes it.
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