#11808 - 02/07/07 05:11 PM
Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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RevOD
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Yeah a buddy of mine built his V8 turbo headers from these. So I figured i would give them a shot. I got them from McMaster - Carr ordered 5pm and got them @ 3pm the next day.... now thats service.
With thoughts of making a header, what about a simple Log Style manifold? Huber Performance here locally in St. Louis uses one on his 9sec SVO Mustang.
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#11809 - 02/08/07 02:50 AM
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RevOD
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Maybe something like this? [img]http://www.odiesgarage.com/Blog/Nova/log%20manifold.bmp[/img]
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#11813 - 02/08/07 10:36 PM
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Im sure there is at some point, but not for my application definitely.
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#11814 - 02/09/07 12:02 AM
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I also picked up a Knock Off Type-S BOV and knock Off Tial WG w/ a 3/6psi spring. Also got a MBC.
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#11815 - 02/09/07 05:17 AM
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tlowe #1716
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revod, i'd say go for it and make the manifold! hank is right a tubular tuned header is best. but you are not building a all out race motor. it would work fine in your application. i would recommend making a jig to make it easier to fab up. if it works good, like i think it will. you may be able to sell these elusive manifolds. tom
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#11816 - 02/09/07 06:03 AM
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RevOD
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yeah what I need is to get a cad drawing for the flanges so my machine guy can make me a set to start with. Ive got auto cad just gonna have to start measuring it up.
No like the MSPAINT drawing i had above. You think its viable to merge the 2-3 and 4-5 pipes into one and dump them into the log? Do you see this creating any issues
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#11819 - 02/09/07 06:49 AM
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RevOD
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Manual Boost Controller
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#11821 - 02/09/07 08:02 PM
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RevOD
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Yeah to start the manual will be ok even a bit of variance to start. Once i get it all figured out I will pick up an electronic one.
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#11823 - 02/09/07 08:24 PM
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RevOD
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No didn't weld anything else up waiting on the head to come back so i can mock the locations up first. Its going in a 72 Chevy Nova.
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#11825 - 02/09/07 08:55 PM
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Hardened exhaust seats, new guides, valve grind. Just a basic rebuild. By bumping up the valve spring pressure you mean swap in stiffer springs?
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#11826 - 02/09/07 09:34 PM
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RevOD
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Here is the car from 2 years ago before my V8 broke down.
And here again this a few days before I got stranded in Stroud, OK.
http://www.odiesgarage.com/Nova/images/Super40.mpg
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#11828 - 02/09/07 09:40 PM
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RevOD
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so you can use a std z28 spring on these without modifications? I might pick a set up and have him install them if thats true.
How about these?
SEAT PRESSURE
110 lbs. @ 1.750"
OPEN PRESSURE
325 lbs. @ 1.200"
COIL BIND
1.150"
FREE HEIGHT
2.030"
NOMINAL LIFT
.490"
MAX. LIFT
.550"
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#11830 - 02/10/07 09:13 PM
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RevOD
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Gotcha, maybe for the heck of it once they are back I will go ahead and pin the rocker studs.
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#11831 - 02/11/07 03:59 AM
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So would these be more along the linse of what i should get? They are just a stock SBC valve spring. They are from Elgin
Free Length : 2.0300
O.D. : 1.222 / 1.238
I.D. : 0.868 / 0.884
Wire Size : 0.177
Closed Press : 76-84 lb
Closed Length : 1.70
Open Press : 194-206 lb
Open Length : 1.25
Solid Height : 1.1500
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#11835 - 02/12/07 07:48 PM
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RevOD
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I do plan on running an IC. Ive looked at some Probe IC's that would fit up front nicely.
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#11836 - 02/12/07 07:50 PM
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RevOD
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for the valve springs the shop said i needed something with a similar free height. What are the stock springs?
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#11838 - 02/13/07 12:18 PM
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RevOD
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Yes ford probe
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#11839 - 02/13/07 06:40 PM
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I would not suggest using a Ford Probe intercooler.
It is designed for a 2.4 liter.
Generally speaking, factory intercoolers are too small to begin with. They just throw in an intercooler that will fit(for packaging purposes),not one that will cool the best.
I know what your saying that it will fit perfect for your car,,,, but take it from me,,,, it is too small.
A Volvo intercooler is as big as the radiator,it is overkill pretty much for there size engines.
You can pick them up at junkyards & tell them it is a radiator,(usually radiators are cheaper than an intercooler.
But if you want to spend a little more for a new intercooler, Ebay has tons ,,,just look for a bar & plate design & one with the flow requirements you are looking for with the inlet & outlets where you want them.
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#11840 - 02/13/07 06:47 PM
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There is unfortunately no way to make one that large fit in my car, it least not in front. The grill is too close plus I would have to slice up the hood latch support and re brace it some how and that I do not want to do. And with the 6 being so long I cannot move the radiator back and put it in front of that. So Im stuck wither running a smaller one or running none at all. There is literally no room in the front of the radiator without doing some major surgery....
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#11841 - 02/13/07 07:11 PM
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i had to remove my hoodlatch assembly. the requsite hood pins look good. my intercooler is a common aftermarket type. finned area is 18 long by 6 tall 3.5 thick and 2.5 inlet and outlet on same side. i did have to cut some holes in my rad support to route the tubes and alittle notching for total cooler clearance. all this in a 65 elcamino. you can make one fit. tom
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#11842 - 02/13/07 07:38 PM
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Oh I could but I am not installing hood pins lol.... Like I said I could do some rebracing and fit one about the dimensions you said and keep the hood latch, just unsure if I want to.
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#11843 - 02/13/07 07:49 PM
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tlowe #1716
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if you keep the boost pressure below 6 lbs you may not need a intercooler. tom
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#11844 - 02/13/07 08:03 PM
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We didnt plan on going over 6-8psi anyways for now.
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#11845 - 02/19/07 05:10 PM
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Here is my finished Turbo Outlet Flange. Had it custom cut by MC Motorsports. Its an odd ball bolt pattern so I had to send my housing off to him to get it cut.
Now both housings are at the Powdercoaters its getting 2000deg Satin Black on the Hot side and Black Chrome on the cold side.
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#11847 - 02/19/07 06:29 PM
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The flange is a separate piece then the housing. It will just bolt on, and the pipe will be welded to that flange. Then once its all welded up the hotside pipe and down pipe will be coated also.
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