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#11968 - 04/07/07 05:02 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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The MSD BTM would work OK, but it has no way of detecting detonation.
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#11969 - 04/07/07 08:26 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Yeah I hear yeah, its just not in the budget for much else. Also my MSD box has a Timing Retard function, I wonder if I could hook it upto a knock sensor? or possibly just a hobbs switch to pull x ammount of timing at full boost?

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#11970 - 04/08/07 07:04 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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RevOD,
just curious ,how much have you invested in this project?
It is worth every $ spent BTW.

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#11971 - 04/09/07 04:03 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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So far including the purchase of the motor and the head rebuild I have yet to spend over $500. Alot of DEALS and alot of parts lying around. I have looked into building a DIY knock sensor though so well see.

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#11972 - 04/09/07 05:23 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Good to hear its moving under its own power.

So whens she going to the dyno?

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#11973 - 04/09/07 09:36 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Not for a while, The car has alot of bus to work out considering it hasn't moved under its own power for 2 years. Well have to see.

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#11974 - 04/09/07 05:20 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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RevOD:
Just got my fuel rail and injector bungs to convert to MPFI. Getting a turbo similar to yours. Hopefully I can make as good of progress as you have. I have more on my plate then I can keep up with so.... I might be able to get it in N/A and run it that way to get things broke in.

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#11975 - 04/09/07 05:31 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Yeah sounds like a good idea. I plan to go MPFI eventually.

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#11976 - 04/10/07 09:44 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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My 3in mandrel bends showed up today so I can complete my exhaust. Cant wait to hear that thing running through the full pipes

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#11977 - 04/11/07 10:22 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Sounds good.
So what muffler did you decide on installing?

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#11978 - 04/11/07 10:35 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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For now ill install my Super 40 Flowmaster, I can always change it out later on.

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#11979 - 04/11/07 11:01 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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I did order a v-Band flange setup to hook the exhaust to the Downpipe. That should be here tomorrow.

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#11980 - 04/12/07 04:56 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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I did some more work on sealing up the carb, removing the choke, ect... the Down Pipe is wrapped and you can see the 02 location. V-Band will be here tomorrow, and my fuse panel arrived so I can rewire the gauges and 02.


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#11981 - 04/12/07 11:32 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Looking sharp!
Are you ready to install your new carb bonnet & intercooler, or is that on standby?

Also ,take notes on when your boost comes in after you install you exhaust system.
Goodluck!


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#11982 - 04/13/07 12:08 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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hey, did what have you done so far internally? i.e. forged pistons, cam, etc?

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#11983 - 04/13/07 12:12 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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No intercooler yet, but a new carb hat should be here shortly, wont be driving it again till that does arrive. I will watch that and plan on installing a cutout to bypass the exhaust when racing.

As for internals.... its completely STOCK. 230ci with 75,000+ miles, just a rebuilt head, petronix ignitor, and an intake.

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#11984 - 04/14/07 12:49 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Well looks like I found an intercooler. Smaller one but bar and plate style and should be easy to find somewhere to mount it. Its a Saab 900 Stock IC. should work just fine for my low boost application, now just where to mount it.


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#11985 - 04/14/07 10:42 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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If you run that intercooler I would install a Spal electric fan mounted to it.
Cheapest place to buy from is www.the-fan-man.com
1(866) 435-6477
I put one on the wifes Jetta intercooler & made a noticable difference.

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#11986 - 04/14/07 10:53 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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humm never thought about that, ive got a 9in fan that I could use. Anyone know of a way to monitor IAT?

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#11987 - 04/14/07 11:11 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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The Spal fans are really slimline if you are hurting for space.
There are several companies.
Slips my mind right now ,but you can install a probe, my friend runs a small wire w/probe on the end of the wire into the airstream of his intercoolers inlet & outlet, & uses a westech dual temp gauge.
IIRC

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#11988 - 04/14/07 11:35 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Yeah the 9in we have is a slim one, used to run it on a transmission cooler so it should work perfectly. Ill look into finding a probe to watch the air temps.

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#11989 - 04/15/07 09:52 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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RevOD,,,,,


I was wondering what kind of wastegate did you use & if you had any closer/better pics of your install?

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#11990 - 04/15/07 05:19 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Its a Tail Knock off 38mm from ebay. I will take some pics from underneath when im working on the exhaust tomorrow.

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#11991 - 04/16/07 10:36 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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#11992 - 04/16/07 10:45 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Also I picked up a carb hat over the weekend in Kansas City. Most likely a dual fuel hat for a propane system? But well make an adapter and it should work out just fine.



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#11993 - 04/16/07 09:09 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Nice pics!
That does not look like the carb bonnet you left a link to???
http://www.spectreperformance.com/#CATALOG.9843

Are you going to run a pipe from your wastegate into your exhaust system, or just leave it open?

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#11994 - 04/16/07 09:41 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Your coorect I stated i picked this one up in KC, the other was back ordered so i canceled the order. I will run the wastegate into the exhaust.

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#11995 - 04/18/07 10:49 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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I worked on the intercooler today looks like ill be able to mount it in front of the radiator.

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#11996 - 04/19/07 05:16 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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i knew you would figure out a way to do it. keep going. tom
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#11997 - 04/20/07 12:53 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Yeah well see once I get it completely mounted, going to route the charge pipes right under the radiator support and back up to the turbo and carb. Ive also decided to keep the PCV system, with a check valve and a catch can, the rings on this thing are bad, without one it just mist oil out the breather even at idle.

Almost finsished rewiring my accesories to the dedicated fuse panel I purchased also.


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#11998 - 04/20/07 04:30 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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It realy Looking Good. Keep it up and You be buzzen them v8guys for sure. \:D
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#11999 - 04/20/07 10:22 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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does the fuse panel have anything to do with the turbo functions or is for the ignition/accesories?

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#12000 - 04/20/07 12:10 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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 Quote:
Originally posted by walt 1940:
If the rings are that bad, why not re-ring before hitting it with the Turbo.
It may not last long.
Well we didnt know they were that bad till we got this far along. I would rather finsih up all the small details and then worry about re-ringing it so it can be an easy in and out operation. Plus who knows what else we may find once we get inside it might turn into a full on rebuild and I dont plan on spending that money on a 230ci

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#12001 - 04/20/07 12:21 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Originally posted by neonova75:
does the fuse panel have anything to do with the turbo functions or is for the ignition/accesories?
Nope just wiring up items like ignition, wideband o2, gauges, ect..

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#12002 - 04/21/07 08:25 AM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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ok, kind of threw me off for a second. so if the things inside are bad and require a rebuild, which you dont want to do, what becomes of the whole project?

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#12003 - 04/21/07 01:53 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Rebuilding a 250 or a 292 block, not a 230. If im going to drop $$ on a rebuild it will be with a bigger ci motor. Plus i have a buddy with a fresh 250, cammed, with a roller rocker head that im trying to get him to sell me. With that motor I could swap on forged pistons, rod bolts and go.

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#12004 - 04/21/07 10:39 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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so from the knowledge and experience you've attained through this project, running a 250 would be nearly identical to the setup you have now? btw, is there a stock forged piston for the 250 (or 307) or is that all aftermarket?

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#12005 - 04/21/07 10:53 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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Exactly identical, only difference is the bore x stroke.Yes the 307 Forged Piston will work on the 250. This would even work on the 292 that just has a a bit higher Deck height IIRC

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#12006 - 04/24/07 02:16 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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are you getting your parts mostly from swaps, junkyards or the interent?

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#12007 - 04/24/07 06:23 PM Re: Picked up my Engine and Intake Today
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I bought the motor locally, the turbo off a GN Forum, most of the tubing and flanges from McMaster-carr, a few things off ebay and the rest is stuff I had lying around or from the local parts house.

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