#69204 - 03/25/12 10:46 AM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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snowman4839
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Is that bellhousing really necessary? I mean it's no 600hp+ car
Tentative parts list Forged Pistons + rings + wrist pins - $560 http://12bolt.com/250292_products/pistons
Lump port kit - $60 http://12bolt.com/250292_products/bolt_in_lump_kits
Medium Lift Turbo Cam - $250 http://12bolt.com/250292_products/camshafts
1.94/1.6 Valves and head rebuild kit - $205 http://12bolt.com/250292_products/cylinder_heads_and_rocker_arms
Replace all major bearings (main, rod, and cam) http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SLP-4124MA/ mains - $60 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/KGB-CR624AM/ rods - $25 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SLP-1557M/ cam - $26
Don't know if I need lifters, pushrods, and rockers?
Machine work - zero deck the block, bore cylinders .040" over, press all new pistons into the rods, install new cam bearings, cut head for larger valves, might have them install lumps?, maybe need align hone?
Do I have any options on pistons besides the ones from Tom? It says if the block is 0 decked, the CR will be 9.44-9.87. That seems too high for a turbo engine and like I'll just run into detonation problems again with more melted pistons (even with an intercooler)? It seems like I remember turbo engines should be in the 8.5 to 9.0 at the highest.
Edited by snowman4839 (03/25/12 10:46 AM)
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#69207 - 03/25/12 03:00 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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tlowe #1716
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To use those pistons, open up the combustion chamber and don't zero deck the block. This will lower the compression.
My cams come with lifters.
Sorry to hear of the busted parts. How did you hurt the leg? Take it easy on it. Tom
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#69223 - 03/26/12 06:12 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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The new Quick Time bell housing is also a slick little unit. I am going to be using one on my application. I have a Lakewood non SFI rated one right now, still better than the OEM aluminum part.
I have seen first hand the shrapnel storm from a clutch letting go. No a pretty sight.
Paul
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V8 camaros are like navels,...everybody has one. EFI Turbo 250 project well under way.
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#69249 - 03/28/12 07:01 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank
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Snowman,
Not sure if you ever considered running a automatic, but,, they make it much easier to launch harder under boost, easier on the drivetrain also.
When you drive a stick car, a lot of times they feel faster,(it's a false sense a lot of times) because you are being tossed around during shifts & what not while an auto trans cars seems to be really slow & ho-hum.  Just something to think about ;), I absolutly love the fact that w/my Syclone I can hold the brakes, built up boost pressure to 5,10,15,or even 20 psi w/out moving & let off the brake pedal & take off decent.
MBHD
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#69270 - 03/30/12 07:19 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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hendi1133
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I have to agree here sticks are funner but in general I have always felt autos just work better with turbos.
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#70067 - 06/02/12 06:47 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank
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Well the set I ordered has 5/64" first and second compression rings and 3/16" oil rings. Is that not the stock ring size?
I'll be sure to talk to him when I decide to order.
I can't remember off hand but,, IIRC, there are two sizes that came on 250 pistons.
I had ordered a set of rings when I was 16 years old & they were too thick. It said they were for a 250 engine, but I think they were a truck 250 engine? (Never looked futher into it)
Get this,,,, being young & foolish, I used my piston ring groove cleaner tool & actually machined the grooves wider so the rings fit on the pistons. DO NOT DO THIS!
I put the engine back together & it had so much blow by it was ridiculous.Probably installed the oil control rings in wrong. Live & learn. The engine ran fine believe it or not, but it just had massive blow by. People driving in there cars & would be @ a stop light would say to me, hey, your engine is smoking.  MBHD
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#70139 - 06/06/12 04:18 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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tlowe #1716
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If one piston has broken the others are not far behind. In fact they are cracked and you cannot see it. Save your money to build it right.
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#70334 - 06/14/12 07:52 AM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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hendi1133
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Looking good man keep up the work when I get my nova here and back together we will have to cruise sometime
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#70535 - 06/23/12 01:26 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank
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Snowman,
You can mill the cyl head to raise the compression a bit, but, just my opinion, this build is going in the wrong direction, I do understand about no $ & little time to get it all back together.So sometimes you need to compromise just to get your car running, been there done that. 
These would have been a little bit better choice, but they are still cast pistons. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-307-Sealed...42bfc8a&vxp=mtr
I would definately lower the boost down to 3-5 PSI. Just because you have no intercooler, no methanol injection, no MSD boost retard or simular set-up. Also, you are using cast pistons.
Curious as to what octane fuel are you going to use for the fuel cell? Is that a 10 gallon cell?
MBHD
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#70660 - 07/12/12 05:19 PM
Re: snowman4839 turbo build
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You need to quit relying on summit. Those guys will sell you all the wrong parts you are willing to buy. Why not buy the parts from your local machine shop that is installing them? Prior to 70 used one set and after used another. I like to use Clevitte bearings for the cam. Clevite 399s for early engines clevite sh718s for later engines
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