#69829 - 05/16/12 01:43 PM
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tlowe #1716
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At it again. Have had a 65 Chevelle 4 door wagon for quite some time. It has sat in the garage for atleast 7 years. Has a 194/ PG. Engine runs OK. Body is decent with very old paint. Interior is very lacking.
Decided to take it to the convention with the boy. So the thrashing starts. Pulled the interior to recoat the floor. Used a POR-15 type product. Added sound deadener, insulation and carpet.
Installed the dyno 250 motor with a richmond 5 speed. Had to add a floor hump, clutch pedals and linkage. New shocks, got the brakes working. Changed the motor on Sunday. Hope to have running this weekend to test drive. All new exhaust.
Hope to pull out on Sat morning and get the trip on.
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#69831 - 05/16/12 02:09 PM
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tlowe #1716
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Let's also put some guess's out on what it may get for fuel mileage. 250 zero decked, 9.5 comp flat tops .040 over. Clifford 270 cam .525 lift and 214 degrees at .050. lumped head 1.94/ 1.6 valves, roller rockers. progressive 2 bbl 2305 350 cfm on a Offy intake. Hooker headers , 2 1/2 collectors, necked to 2 1/4 pipes into a Y pipe. Single 2 1/2 exit to a Magnaflow 3 chamber muffler and 2 1/2 tailpipe. Trans is a non overdrive 5 speed. Rear gears will be 2.56 and have 27" rear tires. Hope to get electric cooling fans hooked up too. Closest guess to mileage gets a beer at the convention!
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#69839 - 05/16/12 08:06 PM
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tlowe #1716
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Save some paint for mine. It needs it! Got exhaust done tonight. Rear springs and shocks. Rear seat reinstalled.
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#69848 - 05/18/12 06:43 AM
Re: Project 2012 convention
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tlowe #1716
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Hoping to see more than 20 mpg. My turbo 292 Elco will get 18.
Hank, The Offy Intake is being used for this reason. It is the only intake I have that is water heated. I have a few Cliffords but have no method to heat them.
Last night got the clutch pedals hung and connected. Put in a new turn signal assy And repaired a door that was not opening from the outside very well. Tonight, wiring.
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#69856 - 05/18/12 08:38 PM
Re: Project 2012 convention
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tlowe #1716
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Car presently has a 3.36 rear gear. Will get it running this weekend and drive it a bit with those gears. Get a feel for where the motor likes the load. Have a motor minder to hookup this weekend too. That and a tach. Not hooking up the speedo yet. Use a GPS for speed.
Have no SP2P intake. Never seen one in person. Had thought about using my Brazilian divided intake. It needs a little machine work, not enough time.
The water heat will promote fuel atomization. That and the annular discharge boosters of this Holley should do very well.
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#69861 - 05/19/12 07:48 AM
Re: Project 2012 convention
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you are looking to utilize only the exact amount of hp to propel vehical along at 70 (or whatever your desired cruise speed) mph. Whatever that btu energy requirement is, is what the carb needs to provide as efficiently as possible. Carbs are very efficient on their main metering systems, and quite possibly most have nearly the same efficency. Carter carbs pioneered the vaccuum advance in the 20's and it has proven to be an improvement of 20% in economy. I would set total advance to be just shy of bucking at constant speed, probably needing the vaccuum advance to have only limited travel (bent nail in slot behind canister, 1/8 inch dia.) to allow for a little carb loading without pinging, oh yeah use ethyl (premium grade for you youngsters).
Ak Miller, its said of, used to air up his tires to 50# (pre radial days), run vaseline as wheel bearing grease, use light weight rear end lubricant, and back off any drag from brake shoes etc. to an effort to lower all mechanical drag. Who says you cant coast down hills? You may even approach 40 mpg and have the oil companies buy your car from you in an effort to crush all such techonology (you know how they are, i.e. fish carbs etc type wives tales)
Good luck
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#69872 - 05/20/12 07:04 AM
Re: Project 2012 convention
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tlowe #1716
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Timing is a huge event for fuel mileage. Plan is to have it in where it is needed.
Wiring today. Cruise control too!
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#69875 - 05/20/12 08:31 AM
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Gee Tom, You were not kidding when you said you were very busy. That is quite the undertaking on short notice.
Have fun!
Paul
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V8 camaros are like navels,...everybody has one. EFI Turbo 250 project well under way.
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#69904 - 05/22/12 07:34 PM
Re: Project 2012 convention
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The Brazilian intake is not heated. My PES RAM intake will not fit under the hood.
Got it running tonight! She is one buzzin half dozen! Louder than I expected with a full size 3 chamber single muffler. Tomorrow, put the carpet back in and the front seat. I need to drive it! That progressive carb sounds crisp. Had a sticky needle and seat. Not bad for a unknown carb.
Hank, guy's like the PES because it has more tq than a Clifford.
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#69908 - 05/23/12 05:02 AM
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Look forward to meeting everyone at the convention. I'll be the guy in the Ford.
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#69909 - 05/23/12 05:45 AM
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tlowe #1716
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Yep. If I use this blackberry. First time to try it.
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#69931 - 05/24/12 09:23 PM
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Drove it down the road tonight. Running good. Pulls good too. Got a lot to do. The list is getting shorter.
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#69939 - 05/25/12 06:45 PM
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tlowe, I'll give it a shot and say maybe 20 mpg in certain stretches.Have a safe trip and look forward to meeting you in Carson City.
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#69947 - 05/26/12 06:08 PM
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Drove it today. About 125 miles. some 60 mph mosy @ 65-70 rpms upto about 3300 @ 70. Not pleasant. Refilled and added 5.6 gallons. It still has the 3.36 gears and 27" tires with no overdrive. Plenty of spunk too! Tonight, regear to 2.56 gears, should get the RPMs down to a managable # and the mileage up.
This thing is loud. Need a resonator to jam into the tail pipe.
You should have seen all the leaves blowing out of the floor vents when it first got upto speed.
hope to depart on Sunday. Will miss the supper at Will's. Darn, my work had me toooo busy to get this thing done. Today, the boy and I put in the carpet, front seat, and newly installed 3 point seat belts. The timing is a bit too much at highway speed, will dial that back down. It bucks abit.
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#69950 - 05/26/12 07:15 PM
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tlowe #1716
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Darrell, I would take anything you make.
Weighed the car. 3900 with me and the boy and a full tank.
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#69953 - 05/26/12 08:54 PM
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#69958 - 05/26/12 10:46 PM
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Gears are in. Pics on Sunday. Have no 2.73. Calculated 2.56 to be the correct rpm @ 70-75 mph.
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#69961 - 05/27/12 08:05 AM
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tlowe #1716
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Here are the pics. Be gentle. This car has not been on the road since the early 2000's. Tires must be shorter. Thought they were 27. Tach is reading about 25-2600 at 75.










The gears work great. Also added the front chin spoiler. Both changes made the car quieter. Pulls off the line fine. It does help to have a 3.28 first gear.
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#69962 - 05/27/12 08:34 AM
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