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#77526 - 10/15/13 03:10 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Hi Robert, I'm getting there! Just came back from cutting, burning and the start to a pad. Years ago, I built a manifold and used almost the same heat you described. Showed it to Tom who immediately said it was "minimal" and wouldn't be enough. I'd personally add another layer underneath and heat the entire bottom with water, the exhaust will heat the down tubes. Oh, I know Arkansas summers are hot but not that hot! Big Bill doesn't use any heat on his manifolds and says they run fine. You can always run 'er as is and add later if needed. I'll be down in the spring too and will be in Lavaca, I'll give a heads up when the time comes.

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#77531 - 10/15/13 06:40 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Armond, II#298]
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Cool! The way Tom described it my plan was what he did to the manifold on his 39. We shall see, like you said I can always add more later.
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#77571 - 10/17/13 11:31 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Robert

My "heavy" comment wasn't meant to be negative. It was more sarcasm. LOL, In fact, I enjoy seeing home made speed parts. Everyone's take on them is different. I'm sure yours isn't any heavier than an iron intake on a V-8.

Anyhow, are you planning on doing some custom headers? I'd like to see what you come up with.

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#77579 - 10/17/13 09:49 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Whitedog]
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C a smiley face by it so we can all see it for what it is;) won't be doing headers I got jet hot coated Fentons. When I'm farther along on this one I've another 302 powered project in the works. A 39 Chevy "bobber" truck (ooh don't say that on the hxxb!) it'll have three carbs and I'm envisioning three separate cone lakes pipes sticking out the side and angling toward the back. May do it in stainless with intake and exhaust all on one flange.
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#77592 - 10/19/13 12:55 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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You can read the sad story on the other site I really don't want to key it in again.
http://www.killbillet.com/showthread.php?38526-50-3800-flat-bed-dually&p=323373#post323373
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#77594 - 10/19/13 03:18 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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I've built intakes for a straight 8 Buick and a GMC, NA, roots blown and EFI turbocharged, and have never added any heat to the intake manifolds. They always ran just fine, except when the ambient temperature is around 30 degrees and then it ran fine after the engine warmed up. Just my 2 cents.

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#77595 - 10/19/13 03:52 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: GH]
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Thanks GH, that's what my dad keeps telling me a choke is for.
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#77629 - 10/21/13 05:41 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Well, I've ordered all new material and I'm gonna do the manifold over again. I could just cut everything off the bottom of the intake plenum and start from there but it's just like about everything I do when it's done I think of a dozen different things I could've done different. It'll go faster since I've already done it. I've changed to tri-mix welding gas (it works with stainless too) which I've gotten more used to now. All patterns will be scribed on the steel before anything is cut. I'm going with my original idea for heat which will plenty sufficient for down here. I don't live in the arctic! Everything on the plenum except for the runner tubes will be welded while it's clamped down on a heavy steel table. The very last thing welded will be the runners to the bottom of the plenum.
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#77662 - 10/22/13 12:20 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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I don't know what you're doing for air cleaners, but could you do a hot air kit off of your headers?

Maybe even use a air to water setup to pre-heat your air charge.

hot air kit

air to water kit


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#77663 - 10/22/13 01:07 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Whitedog]
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Robert, if you have the inclination, send your old manifold to me and let me play with it awhile, see if I can straighten it up. N/C of course :).

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#77681 - 10/23/13 09:07 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Armond, II#298]
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Armond, thanks for the offer but I could straighten it if I really wanted to or tried. Thing is even if I/you fixed it I still wouldn't like it. I'm looking at it as practice and a learning experience. This isn't the first thing I've screwed up and done over!:) I'll have new material in in a day or two. The next one will go faster and be a better end result.
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#77683 - 10/23/13 04:23 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Completely understand, had to toss it out. Still practice on every project I start. Good luck on the second round and keep us in the loop.

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#77685 - 10/24/13 06:47 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Armond, II#298]
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Will do.
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#77764 - 11/02/13 03:19 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Here we go again! This is more like I wanted to do it the first time. Believe we'll make a go of it. http://www.killbillet.com/showthread.php?38526-50-3800-flat-bed-dually&p=324068#post324068
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#77768 - 11/03/13 11:37 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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That looks good. I have several GMC manifolds but the Edmunds is the one I'm going to use on my 270 because of the hot water feature. You do good work!
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#77769 - 11/03/13 11:50 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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Did edmunds actually make an intake for the gmc? 216, 235 Chevy edmunds intakes are pretty common but I've never seen one before that I knew for sure was for a gmc. Saw one listed on eBay once supposedly for gmc course I was broke and didn't bid on it ( not that that is always a deterrent for me!). Thanks for the good word.
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#77772 - 11/03/13 06:41 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Edmunds made more stuff for more brands than any company I know of. Yes, they made GMC intakes. Mine is for the small port heads but that is what I use. I'll post a picture when I can.
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#77776 - 11/04/13 03:10 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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If I'd found one I wouldn't be doing this. Everyone that runs one lives it!
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#77778 - 11/04/13 08:28 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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If you weren't doing this I would not have told you Edmunds used to make them. \:D
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#77779 - 11/05/13 09:41 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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Sounds about right! ;\)


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#77816 - 11/09/13 03:26 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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WooHoo! https://www.facebook.com/robert.french.9469?ref=tn_tnmn
Well this time it turned out a lot better. I've gotten used to the helium mix gas. You can weld quite a bit hotter with it. I welded the elbows to the plenum and the port flanges without having to patch any leaks. Might still weld something to it for throttle linkage but other than coating it with something it's pretty well done. Might powder coat it. I've heard of heat resistant powder paint. I am pretty stoked!
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#77817 - 11/09/13 03:36 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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That's good.

I do not have a face book account. I am sure I am not the only one that does not.
Do you have any other place to see the pics?



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#77818 - 11/09/13 04:20 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank]
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Yeah look at the earlier posts. I have a build thread on killbillet.com . I just updated it. You don't have to have a FB page to see the pics do you? Here's the link:
http://www.killbillet.com/showthread.php?38526-50-3800-flat-bed-dually&p=324399&posted=1#post324399
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#77819 - 11/09/13 05:00 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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Got a 1/4" pipe nipple for top and side vacuum ports. The one on the top is for a vacuum gauge. Had to trim the center port flange to clear header flange woulda preferred to trim header but it al ready jet hot coated.
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#77820 - 11/09/13 10:15 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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 Originally Posted By: robertf II# 3850
Yeah look at the earlier posts. I have a build thread on killbillet.com . I just updated it. You don't have to have a FB page to see the pics do you? Here's the link:
http://www.killbillet.com/showthread.php?38526-50-3800-flat-bed-dually&p=324399&posted=1#post324399


Those pics are OK but small, & yes you would need to join that site also to see a better view of your pics.

It is nice not having to join another website just to see pics.

I just use photobucket, http://photobucket.com/ but there are others.

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#77821 - 11/10/13 06:39 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank]
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Here you go Hank: http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/robert4005/media/image-3.jpg.html . I got a photobucket page. When is somebody gonna tell me how to load pics on this site?
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#77825 - 11/10/13 10:47 AM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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That's more like it!!!

Looks great!

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#77829 - 11/10/13 03:06 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Mean buzzen half dozen A.K.A. Hank]
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How is this for you guys.

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#77831 - 11/10/13 03:55 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Twisted6 I.I #3220]
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Very nice. Good job. Here's the EDMUNDS .
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#77832 - 11/10/13 04:01 PM Re: 302 homemade intake [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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nice job, can't wait to get started on mine
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#77835 - 11/10/13 08:22 PM Re: 302 homemade intak [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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 Originally Posted By: Beater of the Pack
Very nice. Good job. Here's the EDMUNDS .

Thanks for showing me that beater and thank you Larry.
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#77841 - 11/11/13 08:46 AM Re: 302 homemade intak [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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I didn't send it earlier because I was afraid it would mess you up. The world might have had one less cool homemade speed part and you might be out there searching for an Edmunds and not own a one off.

Here is where I learned to post links and pictures. STOVEBOLT
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#77847 - 11/11/13 04:22 PM Re: 302 homemade intak [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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I didn't send it earlier because I was afraid it would mess you up. The world might have had one less cool homemade speed part and you might be out there searching for an Edmunds and not own a one off.

HaHa! You know I've thought of it before and was again while looking your pic, it wouldn't be that difficult to make a sheetmetal intake patterned after the edmunds. Even if my aluminum welding isn't that satisfactory I can cut and form the material and get somebody else to weld it.
http://s1169.photobucket.com/user/robert4005/media/image-13.jpg.html?state=copy
. I bought this one recently on fleabay. Had to have it went in debt for it ( don't tell the wife!). Never seen another one like it, it has no markings letters numbers or anything on it to identify it. It still rates real high on the cool factor with me but this has been such satisfying experience I may sell it. For now I'm saving for a future project that is going to be more of a full blown hot rod.
Charlie Price vintage speed is repopping Edmunds stuff. Last I looked he has an offer to buy any Edmunds stuff. I emailed him once, he didn't seem interested in repopping any inline stuff. All about $$$$ ain't it?


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#77853 - 11/11/13 08:19 PM Re: 302 homemade intak [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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That manifold is really cool. I have not seen one like it but I'm a country boy and haven't been far from home. \:D Eddie Edmunds is my favorite speed equipment maker because he made so much for so many different makes.

What is your full on hot rod dream?
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#77856 - 11/12/13 06:35 AM Re: 302 homemade intak [Re: Beater of the Pack]
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That manifold is really cool. I have not seen one like it but I'm a country boy and haven't been far from home. \:D Eddie Edmunds is my favorite speed equipment maker because he made so much for so many different makes.
Edmunds is my favorite too. We both Edmunds and jimmy freaks! Too bad we live so far apart.

What is your full on hot rod dream?

I have a 39? Chevy pickup cab with full hood and grill. I'm building one of those "bobber" trucks so many guys on the hxxb hate. Fenderless, short bed, already chopped 5". I chopped it by laying the windshield back instead of stretching the top like most do. Also plan on stretching the cab at least 6". I have two extra tops and sets of doors to do this, going to run the Chevy 6" drop straight axle and brakes and the parallel leaf springs. Going to hand build frame rails for the front that will look a lot like late 20s early 30s Chevy frame rest will be rectangular tube. It'll be Z'ed front and rear. The front Z will be hidden under cab. Another 302 with more cam than the one I'm doing now. 3 carbs on this one with 3 header pipes coming out the side. I have a 49 packard trans with 38 top shifter, r11 overdrive and a Dana 44 rear. Drive train should be plenty stout! Oh yeah almost forgot gonna have a full set of 17" 6 lug Chevy artillery wheels with mid 40s hubcaps. I found out the artillery centers will fit the outer rim from a 2003 to present dodge ram 3500 dually! So with some help from a machine shop I'll have 17" x 5" front and 17" x 6" rear wheels. I'd like run bias tires for the look but the way I like to drive and twisty roads I drive on may require radials! I like satin paint and a general unfinished look, but I'm not really a rat rodder. I hate rust! I don't do spider webs, beer keg gas tanks, themes having to do with satan or hell or sloppy welds. But if someone calls something I build a rat rod I won't be offended.


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#77860 - 11/12/13 09:33 AM Re: 302 homemade intak [Re: robertf II# 3850]
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That sounds like a fun build. Some similarity to my '26 Chevy roadster plans. Parallel front leaf springs, Dana 44, Borg Warner 3 speed OD. My trans is a T86 with an R10. It will use a top shifter from a Jeep T90. (bolt on) Engine is a built 153 4 cylinder. I picked up a BW T85 with a R11 from a Lincoln the other day. You won't have to worry about breaking yours. They are tough. Coker is making radials that have an older look. My '53 actually drives better with radials.

I hate "Rat Rods"! I have never owned a finished pretty car so "in progress" is where I live. There is a huge difference especially for those of us who need to drive our projects. There is very little ratty about my '53 pickup, except for my "air unfreshener".

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