Inliners International Forums General Discussion Engines Langdons Weber 32 DFT

Saw this today pretty trick. Would look great on a open fender hot rod.
But do they make any power, or is it a looks thing?

They do make power, but don't expect the best results without some head work and a cam change. Dual webers is way spendy for me when I can get a 600 cfm edelbrock for $300 and have the same results. Once less carb to tune as well. Hey, yer an Oregon member! Where ya located? I'm in Cave Junction.

I am in the Astoria area. I have not joined because the closest chapter is two hours away. The price is not all that bad. Really has me thinking on selling my offy/39o set up
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Offenhauser-5415-1963-75-Chevy-6-Cylinder-Dual-Carb-Intake-Manifold,813.html
http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/store/#!/Carter-Weber-Carburetor/p/1222026/category=361512
http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/store/#!/Adapter-1-BBL-to-2-BBL-Fits-Carter-Weber/p/1222023/category=361512

Well, all in all the choice is p to you. Yer engine and you do what you want...the dual set up will be sweet. What engine you running? Those were run on 97 cubic in engines so duals would technically only support a 194...you might even run triples. lol Maybe weber 38's instead?

Pretty much stock 250. Tom Langdon said three may give fire wall clearance issues. 38's area great option,so are 2GC's I want a vintage looking engine that will perform.
this is the car.

I have 14" Crager SS for the front, needs paint but will stay black. Gotta keep it classic, love the two carb set up. Two Weber IDF, would be my dream (four stack sticking out the hood wold be awesome!), but two 38's would do, but gotta have round air filters.
Here is what I have now. The 390 is just to common, but works great too!

He has these carbs
http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/store/online-catalog/#!/Air-Cleaner-7-1-2-Polished-Finish-for-Carter-Weber/p/15456403/category=361512
http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/store/#!/Stovebolt-Linkage-Kit-TWO-Carbs/p/15456407/category=361512
and even round air cleaner
http://www.langdonsstovebolt.com/store/#!/Stovebolt-Linkage-Kit-TWO-Carbs/p/48316492/category=361512
Wonder if a 2G would be taller?

Dual 38's would be to much for a 250, so I think two webers from Langdon would do nicely with a offy dual intake. Paint the engine 6 banger blue and the manifolds that dark grey and you'll have a sweet engine.

The 32/36? (one electric and one manual, or both electric)The wife loves the Ford red we used. I would love to add a better Valve cover (thinking of Tom Lowes, or the offy) and side covers.

OK my understanding is the weber 32/38 DGEV from Langdons is progressive, while the 38 DGES from the Clifford guys are like a standard 2GC or 3200 Holley. I like the 32/38 DEG looks to be much better and should perform better, correct???

I think it should be fine. Tom Lowe used a progressive holley 2 barrel on his 250 and it performs great so I think duals will be fine. Won't know fer sure till ya try! Experiment! lol

I think 3 of those carbs would work better than just two.

Remember, the straighter the path for the fuel & air is usually better.

MBHD

I totally agree but I do not have near enough motor. I have given up on the head and cam, just not enough money, in the car budget, The long block will remain stock So I think twin's will work and will get me driving it more on the street. and will sell the offy intake and card to finance if I have to, so While I totally agree, I think a stocl long block would be ove done with three 32/38's, But would look amazing! Just think how it would look in a fenderless bantam or in a t bucket!

Well, considering what Tom Langdon said...that carb(weber 32 DFT) was on a 97 cubic inch engine. So two carbs would satisfy a 194 and 3 carbs a 291 or heck a chevy 292. So you'll be running a bit rich, but if you run all three progressively then that would give the engine a chance to wind up a bit before all that fuel dumps in there. But with only two carbs hook them both together and just dump the fuel in. lol I'd get a Speedmaster HEI...their off of ebay. 60K coil and works good. Pretty much a GM replacement with more spark.

I have chatted though email and Facebook with Ton on this. He says two 32's would work, more for a stock street motor. Three carbs would be great for a more modded engine, but could give firewall and hood clearance issues, that is of no issues here. I do not mind the mods. I want to change the clutch and flywheel to a heavier unit, plus a gasser front end is still close to being a reality....
Linkages are my only issue I do not understand if the linkages are on the side or the front/back

You can see how the back carb on a three carb set up would/could get in the way of the fire wall,( I know this is not the same car as I have but I think you can get a reference of what I mean) but custom air cleaner and some hammer work I think it may fit

You don't want a heavier flywheel...that'll just cause less snappiness. If your flywheel can stand a bigger clutch then go for it. Lighter the flywheel the rougher an idle and snappier it'll be. Back that thing by a tremic 5 speed and you'll be bangshifting gears. lol

Tremics are great, I just do not like the weight and the power that they use. IMHO a t5 is the best stock to mid level tranny. The more gears the merrier! I wish I had a T5. I have given up on really building this engine, I am going to go with this Weber set up and call it good, prolly even leave the Saginaw 4 speed. Nice thing is light 153 tooth flywheels are freaking easy and cheep to find. Circle track guys use them and Speedway has them at a good price.

Don't go too light with the flywheel, it can prevent a good launch.

Also, poorer overall drivability. Mainly when just taking off, unless you have a 3:00 & lower 1st gear & 4:10's or so.

MBHD

Right now I have 2.41 rear with a 3.5 first, and going with a 215/65 15 tire. Once I can get the funds for a 8.5 rear for my 65v8 car I will have 3.08 gears. The car has to remain 100% reliable for warm weather street, and a one a year jaunt down the 1/8 mile (6 or so passes). I have given up on building a wild six and settled on a wild looking, but decent performing car. It is Fun at the current power level so I do not need to be greedy.

Tremics are actually quite light and serve as great overall trannys. You can bang shift...3rd gear burnouts...hammer them and they take it. With the T5...No burnouts...unless you spice one up a bit. But if your gonna cruise with yours a t5 will be nice.

I will street drive the car about 7K a year, make abouy 12 1/8 mile passes a year. I live in a small town two hours from the nearest speed limit above 60. I do have several roads that have corners that are fun to down shift and hit the throttle, so transition from a down shit and slowing from about 2800 to about 1800, then right back up to 4000 to shift and, back down again. Plus the just round towm grocery getting and such.

I like doing burnouts in high gear (not OD) only. That takes all the internal stress off the counter-shaft gears inside of the transmission and the case. The trans essentially becomes a straight pass-through driveshaft. I learnd this the hard way trying burnouts on aluminum case Muncie four speeds.

I'd like to do burnouts one day...

I hear ya...the nice thing about my 66 is that the rear end is so light that 2nd gear single tire burnouts are easy. lol

I have never done a burnout before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUiEzOkJlaY

Was that yer 62? Doing a burnout is simple...here's my 1st burnout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifh4eU5bUAo

That is great! I hope that the burnout is less and times are better this year. My neck will not be strong eonough to hold a helmet this year so I have hired a driver (works cheep one fishing trip). He is a much better driver than me. Unfortunately it will be with the 390 and not a weber set up this year.

In the video...was that your 62 with the 6 banger?

Yes. Only my second time down the strip. Firs time I pedaled to get traction and that did not work, so I tried power shifting into second. Now I have traction bars and will have better tires, and motor is running better, and new driver this year, so I spect much better times and a much better video!

Man I've never gotten mine to burn out like that. lol I had to hold the brake.

IT is easy, Rolling burn out through water box, street tires (205/60r15 @35PSI) at street tire pressure, I only launched at about 2500. The car flat out has power, the first gear is like a Muncie M21 with 3.73 gears. I have "hired" a driver this year so I bet it will be better, I also have modded my carb, from a single inlte 4160 to a dual inlet 4150. Need a quick change secondary housing. I have a few extra secondary springs so I will be "Crew Chiefing" this year (10 year as a AF Crew Chief). One of my best friends will be driving, he is much better than I am. This time we will be playing with tire pressure and more stuff and having more fun, and less stress.

Yeah...in the video I dumped the clutch at 2,000 to get the tires smokey then reved it to 4,000 for the rest. I have done 5,000 with that old 292. lol

That is moving for a 292. I hope too find a garage that I can work in this winter I can up the cam.