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Another thread brings a question to mind regarding what good is a 194 engine. https://www.inliners.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=86415#Post86415Say you have a 230 or 250 block and a running 194. Can you put lightweight 283 pistons on the rods (trying to match the weight of a 194 piston), throw the 194 head on, and then have a decent 230 on the cheap? Seems too simple. Am I overlooking something? Thanks for looking.
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by the time you bought the 283 pistons, you probably could have just bought a 230 or 250 anyway, so not much point I would think.
For me the good of the 194 is that I didn't pay anything for it, and it came with all the accessories (fan, dizzy, alt, pulleys, brackets, etc) that I didn't have for my 292 engines. The head was just a bonus found today.
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Is the crank number 3788424 or 3788423?
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by the time you bought the 283 pistons, you probably could have just bought a 230 or 250 anyway, so not much point I would think.
For me the good of the 194 is that I didn't pay anything for it, and it came with all the accessories (fan, dizzy, alt, pulleys, brackets, etc) that I didn't have for my 292 engines. The head was just a bonus found today. Ditto on my 194, got it for free. 230 pistons are the same as a 283, right? Looking around the web, I'm starting to think 283's don't get much love these days either. So no cheap pistons I guess. So balancing will be a must. Anyone have a bare 194 piston they can weigh? Thanks.
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Is the crank number 3788424 or 3788423? Turbo 6: Who was that question for?
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194 head makes for a great compression boost on the 250-292.
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292 Wagon,
Early 194s had steel cranks.
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292 Wagon,
Early 194s had steel cranks. Turbo-6, Sorry, I haven't opened this one up yet. It was presented as good engine, so I took it home and tucked it away.
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I have a standard 194 steel crank.
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I don't know why you would bother rebuilding a 194 when a 250 bolts right in place.
If you were going to the trouble of a rebuild, buy a 250 crank and at least build a 250, if you cannot find a 292 to build
I had a good running 194. I sold it for $400 to a guy who used it in a hotrod 1928 model A truck. I can imagine in a vehicle that weighs on 1500 lbs, then it could be a fun performer, but for anything 3000+ lbs you simply need more cubes, and especially more stroke.
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you can't make a 194 into a 250 I do believe the bore is to small.
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you can't make a 194 into a 250 I do believe the bore is to small. Twisted6: You're right. One time I had the brainstorm of putting a 250 crank in a 194. Fortunately I forgot about that when reality set in. ($$ for pistons) : ) kooky krispy: The original thought was that no one seems to want a 194. There are a bunch of 250s out there. The 230 and 250 have same bore, the 194 and 230 have same stroke. 194 crank + 250 block = 230. This assumes you have some of each in usable condition. I don't think I'd start from scratch to do this. Pete
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Since outside detentions are the same is the cylinder wall thicker in a 194? If so with thick walls and a crank that would seem to have more overlap it might be the best choice for lots of boost. I'm thinking of the old Dick Dotson plan for a 200 ci Studebaker V8 with twin turbos for 85 pounds of boost to make over 900 hp. I don't think he ever built it.
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NO if I remember right on one that I cut apart a vary long time ago No it is not any thicker. You would end up pretty much cutting the walls out of it.
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That makes sense because one of the main positives with the new six was less weight and if the walls were thicker a 194 block would weigh more than a 250.
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[quote=Twisted6 I.I #3220]
kooky krispy: The original thought was that no one seems to want a 194. There are a bunch of 250s out there.
The 230 and 250 have same bore, the 194 and 230 have same stroke. 194 crank + 250 block = 230.
If rebuilding, then why not just obtain a 250 crank? They are not hard to find. To say "no one wants a 194" is not true. I sold a running 194 on the local craigslist for $400. It was running in a van, so I was able to 'test run' it for the buyer before he bought it
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I can say nobody wants my rare std/std forged steel 194 crankshaft. There are people that will buy just about anything, they are born every second, I just have not found one yet.  MBHD
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MBHD, I want your crank but it's expensive to ship. What area do you live in? I maybe coming to the LA area for the Grand National Roadster Show in January.
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My friend ships cyl heads all around the world & he says it's not as much as you would think.
Even BBC cast iron cly heads, my friend says those don't even cost that much to ship.
I never looked into it, just took my friends word for it.
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Turbo-6, what will you do with the 194 crank? Sorry, I know this is an old thread but I am intrigued by this. Thanks.
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