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#93868 - 04/16/18 08:45 PM Haroer Intakes
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Wound up after some horse trading with a Harper intake for a Mopar. Has anyone ever seen one or have pictures of one? I managed to get a photo or so on the Bench Racing threads. All I've ever run into have been for GM products. click on this link https://photos.app.goo.gl/HKUDRhHnCBmNUDqE3


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#93870 - 04/16/18 08:48 PM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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You can try this link and maybe toggle thru the pix. no more photobucket so click on this link https://photos.app.goo.gl/HKUDRhHnCBmNUDqE3


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#93877 - 04/17/18 10:07 AM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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I could see one. Yeah, Once those guys got our pictures they decided to charge us to use them. I'm still in the process of down loading mine from my Picasa account. On the HAMB you can post from your desktop.
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#93881 - 04/17/18 02:01 PM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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Tom I'm using Google now so new link will display more Pix
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#93888 - 04/18/18 09:15 AM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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That's better. What a nice setup, it's got to be very rare.
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#93889 - 04/18/18 05:21 PM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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The 97 is about 165 CFM, way too small (smaller than a Rochester "B" for a 216) for best peak power.
2 major reasons why they were used on V8s back in the day:
1. the Holley 4150 only dates to 1955.
2. the common log manifold with a big cross-over means every cylinder is fed by all the carburetors.

How unfortunate that Stromberg 81, 97 carburetors that are not completely trashed are priced the same as rubies
I've never seen one with the throttle shaft split (which is how all Harpers TIKO work).
Obviously, you can use 3 stock 97s simultaneously (not progressive using the center as the primary) but the entire concept of progressive operation is lost.
If you find a Harper for the wrong brand, an amazing number of L6 vintage engines (OHV and flathead) have 3 siamese intake ports* between 1-1/4" and 1-3/4", and a simple adapter plate to swap the bolt pattern and transition the size (in either direction) fixes that. The center distances: cut & splice the connecting tubes.
Have fun!

* Some older L6 have 4 intake ports, see it before you buy.



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#93895 - Yesterday at 11:01 AM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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I'll post some pictures of my Chev unit when I unload the trailer and show how the linkage works, the inboard butterflies open first to about 1/3 open the outboard side opens and they both continue to WOT. I have some more 97 bases that I'll split and post photos.
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#93903 - Today at 09:29 AM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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Painc, Gary owns or has owned more inline intakes than any one I know. He and his late brother have traveled the West's swap meets where they for years set up an amazing display of vintage speed equipment leaning heavily to inlines. I wish they had published an illustrated reference book of the treasures they have run across. jalopy's margaritas are the highlight of the Hot August Nights swap meet.
I wish I had taken pictures of Titan's Harper setup because it is the most complete survivor set I have seen or heard of. The split shafts and every linkage piece was of a quality seldom seen on hot rod multi carb systems. I'm not sure how well they actually worked but am pretty sure they were expensive compared with what we usually see. The linkage was certainly better built and designed that anything I have ever owned.
That said some more modern two barrels used this way might be interesting if "vintage" is not important.
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#93907 - Today at 12:06 PM Re: Haroer Intakes [Re: jalopy45 #4899]
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I agree, just from pictures the linkage looks like aircraft quality jewelry.




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