Oh I wasnt meaning that at all, I've played around with the torque formula and knew of the 5252 (but didnt know about the other measurements making that kind of difference) and have taken a horsepower graph that showed no torque and ran the hp thru the formula and then plottied the torque on top of the hp graph in a diff color. It really gets interesting when you plot a blown or turbo'd engine for torque--thats impressive. For a street engine a turbo car needs no rpm to be bad news-good news for our sixes.