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#12818 10/21/06 05:31 PM
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Looking for a bit of advice. I found what I believe to be a 261 in an old Pontiac at the auto wrecker today (will confirm tomorrow). The cost is $150 if I pull it out. I am sure it has the 848 head which is typical for Pontiac's with a 261 in Canada.
The engine looks fairly rough but appears mostly complete (missing water pump). Are these blocks usually ok to rebuild? I am going to buy the head regardless and for $150 think I should take a chance on the whole engine. Any thoughts?
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That sounds like a a pretty decent score, have you tried to bar it over a couple turns? Even if the block is junk, you may get a good crank and rods out of it.

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It's been my expierience the the blocks, if cracked, crack down low in the water jacket, by cylinders 5 & 6, just above the oil galley on the drivers side.


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Dear Bob;

Bryan's right, if It's not cracked there It's probably okay.

When you get the head off, look for the "steam holes". If there, It's a 261" for sure and I would get it.

Good job. \:\)


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Thanks John. Didn't think of just looking for the steam holes. Will go back and check tomorrow.
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B;

That's such a good buy, your okay even with a crack, as the rods are worth that and with todays welding techniques cracks are an "east fix" too.

I have several I'm working on for my own cars & customers.

Good luck. \:\)


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bobh if it is a 261 buy it. they don't make them any more. cracked blocks can be fixed. the motors don't take up much room so if you need one 5 years from now, you have it. and if you find some more buy them too you can always sell them or keep them for spairs.

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Got the engine home today. Once I pulled it out old Pontiac I was able to confirm that it is a 261. Casting number is 3769717 with a head casting number of 3836848 (I think, still a bit dirty). Thanks for the advice.
Bob


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I've heard of Canadian Pontiacs coming with 261s before. So it's not just an "Urban Legend". \:\)


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Dear Martin;

No, It's quite true.

Many were used there when the Pontiac flathead 6 was discontinued and there the same as the truck ones used here.

So; If you find one, grab it like Bob did. \:\)


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The Canadian Pontiac 261's do differ from the Chevy truck versions in that they were all bypass oilers and had hydraulic lifters.


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