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#18662 02/08/04 11:16 PM
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can someone tell me the length of the T5 input shaft of a 83 to 87 S10, also the register bore size that would be needed in the bell housing. trying to link up a t5 to a dodge bell housing. thanks, Bob

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thanks 51. that site show the camaro as 6.3 length but does not say if s10 is same or different. thanks, bob

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I belive the S-10 measurments differ some from those pictured on the Camaro chart. I can measure my S-10 tonite and get back to you. I do know the big hole in the bell housing is same as all post 55 Chevy cars/51 trucks.
I'm in the middle of installing S-10 unit in my 46 Chev pickup. My problem is that big hole is smaller on this old truck so have had an adaptor made. Lots to measure and consider on this swap but well worth the minor head aches.
Let me know via email if you still need these measurments.


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How about just turning the retainer down to fit the smaller hole, IF you don't get into the retainer hold down bolts-may have to use allen head bolts, or take your bellhousing off and bore out the bellhousing to fit the modern retainer, or read my article in the past TPN about a "Modern Bellhousing for your CBOP."

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Bob: my S-10 shaft is 7-1/8" give or take a hair. Measured to front of the case and not bearing retainer.
Stock front bearing plate is a weak point in this trans and cutting it down reduces support for bearing. If you do this get one of the aftermarket steel retainers that offer more front bearing support.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/02/t5/index2.shtml


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my plymouth bell house would need a shaft length of 7 and 3/4. the register bore is 4 and 1/8. the camaro has a 6.3 shaft with a register bore of 4.68.. shaft too short. fords have a shaft of 7.18, 7.41 and 7.85. Isuzu has 7.14 length. S10 is ??? thanks, bob

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s10 shaft of 7 and 1/8 would be short for my bell house then.

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seems ford trans with 7.85 would be easier modification.

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Bob: Get ahold of Tom Langdon at Stovebolt. He has some experience with T-5's in Plys. He also sells an adapter "kit" of some kind for this purpose. You might have to use an early Ply truck bellhousing.


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i seen pictures on a prior post of don coatney's 48 ply with a t5 to a desoto engine with a ply bell house. not sure what mod's he did to make it work.

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Bob;
When I bought my T-5 (1986 S-10) the input shaft was shot. I could not find a replacement in a country wide search. The parts house I was working with told me that a slightly longer shaft was available so I had them order one in for me. Turns out it worked better than the original. Here is a comparison of the short and long shaft.



As you can see in this next picture the longer shaft worked well for me. By the way my engine is a 1953 Desoto 25 ½” block. My bell housing and flywheel are from a 1948 Plymouth.



I elected to not use a pilot bushing but instead fabricate a bearing mount and install a pilot bearing. This shows the position of new bearing



This next picture shows the bearing mount.



You questioned the bore of the bell housing hole where the transmission mates up. There is a very important step you don’t want to forget when it comes time to do this modification. Make sure your hole is dead nuts on center. To do this I used a magnetic base dial indicator affixed to the flywheel. I found that my factory hole was out as much as .012”. I made notes and sent the bell housing to the machine shop. They then bored my new hole on the true center.



I had my stock Plymouth pressure plate rebuilt and did not have to contend with drilling new holes in the flywheel to use the S-10 pressure plate. I purchased a new disc to fit the T-5 input shaft splines.



This is how the transmission looks bolted up in the car. Hope this information helps. Don Coatney



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Thanks Don for the info. the s10 input of 7 and 1/8 had me stumped . my ply bell is 7.75 deep. your new input looks even longer. ford makes an input of 7.85. would that fit into a s10 trans? i have a cousin that works in a machine shop that can center and bore my bell. thanks again. bob

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The Chev Astro Van around 1985 also had a T-5 available in it. I had one a couple of years back and if memory serves me correct, we changed the input shaft because the "nose" section of it was longer than the S-10 unit. They had a shifter that sat off to the side intead of in the middle. I don't know how much luck you will have trying to find one of these trans or any info about it. Good Luck.....


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