hello..good comments Larry...I will add this...concerning adding epoxy with plates and how it can affect increase in cfm's- it depends on what you have done to port(ie, enlarging it)... with the flow testing I have done with Clyde at his company, PES, he showed me yrs ago when i 1st started using his plates, that by not adding epoxy with plate didnt add anymore cfm's...HOWever, if you start enlarging port and modifying more and more-ADDING epoxy DOES make a difference.....until you actually take time and see it yourself, it may seem unlikely it will add.... I have spent many hours myself with Clyde and on other testing flow benches and once you start you will find out what can be done and the stregnth of epoxy that MANY use now is exceptional.....lots of fun can be had-i would highly recommend using PES plates before doing anything else-the procedure is time consuming yet bascially simple and the increase in performance and how your engine runs will be shocking to you-forget the cams or big carbs or chrome stuff-here is what I want to share -you will be VERY amazed-EVEN with stock valves....have fun and keep creating....