I don't "hate" the new reverse order but I don't particulary care for it,like others have stated,all of the boards that I frequent are set up the old way.Some of these boards will have an icon above the threads that reads something like "go to last post not read" and it will do just that,others like chevy talk will send you directly to the last unread post or the bottom of the page.I find myself very seldom using the feature and almost allways read the whole thing all over to refresh my mind(my memory is as short as...never mind!).I do appreciate the changes to the site and like many others I miss the reciprocating pistons alerting me to new posts,I also would like to thank the administration,Jack in particular,to put the matter to a vote allowing the readers to make the call,I think this is the first board that I've been that a change has been dealt with in this manner,my hat is off to you.At the end of the day,no matter wich way it goes I will continue to frequent this site even though a perennial lurker,my vote still counts.Thanks,HF.