oh I did look at at the dyno figures and they were very helpfull, yeah I dont know I am just pulling my hair out on this one, but the data looks great, because in straight gear 3rd I would have very good power in the 3000-3500 rpm range with that data, and OK Power at cruise? but ya know what would be cool, is if there was a graph that showed the torque ratings at the various RPM's or maybe one of them does and I didnt realize it, I will look again, thanks so much for your help up to this point, I thinking I want like .470 lift for great torque, is this too greedy?