Sorry Beater, can't make Minden on the 31st as we need to be at Pomona at 5.00 am the next day and don,t want to travel 9 hours in the dark (over mountains), but that don't mean we can't go thru Minden some other time so send me your phone number on a PM and I'll give you a call if we come that way, we may still get to share a few beers and check out all the local inline "projects" cheers Rob