Originally Posted By: dodgycanuck
Ok, so I have another question...

If I use a meth/water injection kit... do I still need to retard the timing under boost?


You would not need to retard the timing as much as w/running pump gas.

I can say w/guys & there Syclone & Typhoons,running meth injection,normally timing is @ 17 ish total,but when injecting straight meth they turn the total timing up to 24 ish.

But remember,the Syclone stock runs 14-15 psi stock boost pressure.

Guys that run 20-26 psi range are running anywhere from 20-24 degrees of total timing,every engine is different though.

I think Tlowe says he runs about 28 degrees total timing,but he is only running 12 psi of boost pressure,(correct me if I'm incorrect Tom)

Guys running w/out meth see intake air temps pretty high running say 22 psi up to 200 degree F,then when they inject straight meth they see temps in the range of 50-100 F,,,these temps are just general info,not totally 100% accurate because I am going from memory off the top of my head,,but you get the general idea.

Methanol makes a huge difference in power & allows you to crank up the boost as you could be able to when using race gas like C16,but you are running pump gas 91-93 octane.

Guys w/there Buick GNs,& w/there Syclones & Typhoons have used water/meth
,but they will all tell you the same,,,straight methanol injection will make more power than it does w/water/meth injection.

So, in genral,yes, you will not run as much total timing as you would normally aspirated.

Hopes this helps in some way.


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