Originally Posted By: CNC-Dude #5585
From Tom's very first post mentioning the 292 Dyno test, he spelled out that 1 of 3 easy requirements would put a person in the loop for the data from these test:

1)Financial Compensation
2)Parts Contribution
3)Knowledge Contribution

Surely, you could have done one of those 3 things, 75 other people did. He made it easy so everyone could be involved that wanted too.



I have given input & parts ideas for Tlowe to use,since he did not go in the direction I mentioned I guess I did not qualify LOL.

I do not need his results of any of his testing as I have done most of this type of testing in a real car & in the streets & race tracks.I've done this testing over 20 years ago, & others have done it before I have.

Most input or guessing I have done off the top of my head is pretty much correct.
The Offy is a better street driven manifold for a mild engine,w/low stall converter.

As far as Tlowe saying the peak torque is way better w/the Clifford,because it showed a peak torque of 1.something ft lbs more?
I would call that a wash,or pretty much dead even IMO.

What these engine dyno tests do not show is how bad the Clifford manifold causes the carb to meter air/fuel poorly off idle & part throttle acceleration.

All my tests were done on various 250 combos.
I cannot speak for how they would run w/a smaller engine like a 230 or a 194, but I would take a wild guess that the results would be more apparent on smaller engines than a 250,,meaning it would be even more pathetic trying to accelerate w/those smaller engines w/a Clifford intake.

None of the Tlowes dyno tests are done @ partial throttle openings or 800 RPM & up, as to where my testing on a real car shows actual part throttle acceleration,idle to peak RPM etc.

The problem that most car mags shows when dyno testing an engine,is just like Tlowes testing,no part throttle testing,off idle testing,just WOT testing & who drives around @ WOT all the time?
These tests do not reflect how the engines react under normal driving conditions that you or me driving on the street or track.
Again IMO.

MBHD


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