i tried several things today.i unhooked the line from carb to dist. and pluged both lines. the timing reading was the same i also pluged the line going to the pcv valve it didn't change it either.i did notice that while i was taking the timing reading when i pulled back on the throttle the mark on the balancer would move toward the top of the engine ( that's advanced i think ). i don't know if this is normal or not. i took a mirror and tried to look at the rubber on the balancer and it looked ok. i guess i would have to take out radiater to take the holding bolt out of crank snout to see if the key holding it in place is bad.i will try that next i can't think of anything else it would be.is the line going to the dist. the line i need to take loose to do the timing and should it be pluged or left open? anything else i should try.in order for it to run well it still has to be set about 10 or 15 deg BTDC. thanks, hoggyrubber