Inliners International Forums General Discussion MOPAR '50s Dodge truck 2X1 manifold & duel exhaust

Ray
This thing has 6 intake ports, maybe he could use 6 motorcycle carbs like that Hudson you showed us a while back. They could be big ones since each cylinder is over one liter (Hey! a wine bottle is only .75 liters, ... these really are BIG!)

Leif

Yes, If there is blame it's partly yours. I've gone back through these threads and I have made a list of those involved. You will all be held accountable! If this doesn't work out well I'm showing the list to my wife! On the other hand when we comlpete our first successful run the beer is on me!

Top idea! I should put you on my staff!

Shame I don't drink beer...

Ray,Then if I ever get that far south I'll take you to "The Pub With No Beer" and you can drink what you like!
Leif, I'm thinking about multiple GM TBIs (3) and Megasquirt.

Rockets? Where the heck do you buy rockets?!

This is Nevada you can buy anything! Until about a year ago a friend had two anti aircraft guns in his back yard. It's kind of how America used to be. Actually it's not the whole rocket just the war head.
I got an answer from SCTA. They are not interested in a bigger Vintage Class. (375+) That puts me in B/L where it would cost $3,000+ for tires, and a lot more for other high speed safety equipment not required at a speed this thing might really go. (150-175?) So this project is on hold. My plan now is for a '50 GMC pickup with a 302. 132 mph is a winner. I may not do that but I may be able to afford to try!

Beg and plead...

What have you got to lose?

Certainly not that kind of money! I'm not totally giving up on it but as far as I can tell I may as well have the only 413 in the world. I haven't found any parts not even gaskets. I'll work on the rule guys and see what I can talk them into. The rear engine roadster class is a little more friendly. Maybe a modified pickup. It would be a perfect long term Bonneville racer to hand down to my sons. Two or three generations might get it up to 57 or 58 mph!

HEY BEATER, Come on lets go for 59! LOL 1OL RADNECK I.I.#113

Hey Popper, If you want to kill yourself in something I put together at breakneck speed go right ahead! I'm playing it safe.

I'm sure there's a scrap guy in CA who has a truck or two with them in... and the trucks are still in use...

I think they are rare but they made thousands and they have so much metal they can't rust that fast. I have seen references on other forums (such as the pilot house truck forum and AACA) so there must be a few around. I bet the military collectors might have some too. Those guys are into "BIG".

Leif

I'll keep looking for a parts source and would appreciate it if you guys run across stuff if you would let me know. Like I've said before I would not have known what it was if it wasn't for you. We need to use it!

Here's a good place to look:

http://forums.aaca.org/ubbthreads.php/forums/35/1/Dodge_Trucks

I remember reading a post from some one in the Pacific Northwest that had a few big sixes. Let us know if you hit pay dirt!
Happy holidays!

Leif

Bingo!

http://forums.aaca.org/ubbthreads.php/ub...ad_sixes#UNREAD

Two owners posting there, though one only has the 377... but there's pics.

Leif and Ray thanks for the great Christmas present! I've been snooping around on that site for a couple of days now. It gives you guys a break here too!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Funky-Wil...sQ5fAccessories

?????

It's not for a 12-porter, that's for sure...

The bolt pattern will be the giveaway with that one.

And seeing as the eBay listing will disappear in time, here's the pics:

Check the guy's other stuff. There is a Chrysler straight 8 manifold! Link

I've seen this guy selling his stuff at swapmeets around the midwest. I saw this manifold in person at Iola, WI this past summer. It is definitely for a larger than usual inline.

Olson's Gaskets says the have gaskets for the 413. They are not cheap but they have them. So now I will be able to look inside and know I can seal it back up!

Olson's

cowerth, I'm putting the specs here so we can keep this in fewer spots.
Bore& Stroke 4 1/16 X 5 5/16
413 ci
171 hp @ 3,200 rmp
424 ft. lbs. @ 1,200 rpm
8.5 to 1 CR
12 ports
head 9" X 30: 33 studs

Another Big Dodge 6 is in the area. Some of our local chapter members toured some collections and shops in our area (while I stayed home and cussed my project) and Dennis Bargman sent me pictures of another Dodge/Chrysler Huge 6. BD#2

Cool!
Do you think they would be interested in selling it?
Send me an e-mail at Leif.Ortegren@us.Pilkington.com

Thanks for sharing....

Leif

There's still the rumor of another one! I'll see what I can find out about this engine at our next meeting.

I just got back from a Texas trip. I think there is another 413 at Owen's Salvage in Wellington, Texas. After we had left the yard I was telling Bob about mine and he said he had one sounded the same. I'll send pics to him and get him to check it out. It was too hot to go back out there!

Too hot? In Texas? How hot was it?

When it's too hot to go back and look for a piece of heavy scrap metal that one can carry home and add to an ever-growing collection of same, now then, brothers and sisters, that's hot.

You can go back for that fine piece in the winter . . . but then there'll be an ice storm. That's Texas, as we remember it. Maybe then the 413 would give you some traction.

God's Peace to you.

d
Inliner #1450

Several years ago I stood in Owen's salvage and looked through the fence into South Side Salvage catching glimpses of many 30s to early 60s vehicles sticking out of the heavy brush. Only a few of the truly dedicated, even if they had permission, would brave the cold in winter or the humid heat, ticks, chiggers,and rattle snakes in the summer to chop parts out of the brush. Those conditions saved some great stuff. Bob Owens (Flat Top Bob on the HAMB) has fixed that so now it's just heat and cold and the cattle that keep the grass and brush in check. He has it all organized as only Bob can do. I should have gone back out when Bob told me about the Big Six But I'd had the yard tour and the new house/shop tour and we were trying to get to Miss Piggy's Bar-B-Que before they closed. Now in Texas there is nothing worth missing Bar-B-Que for, not even hot rod parts!

I was finally able to get the pictures of the removal of the Bid Dodge off of my phone cam. BD

What a lovely beast! Look at all those ports!

Leif

Here's the story of finding and retrieving the 413" Dodge/Chrysler six. Too big to run in vintage class at Bonneville.

Where??

I talked to Owen salvage. Darn my luck, he shipped that motor to Norway just a couple months ago. Sure wish I'd found this post sooner!

Norvay? Gees! That must have cost a fortune. There is one in Yerington, Nevada. At least I think it is still there. It is the one I was telling Leif about. I still haven't had a chance to get over there. There are pictures of that one here somewhere. Are you sure Bob said Norway? He talks kinda' funny. Did he try to give you the Stude V8s I left there? Beater

Well, we talked by email, so it was pretty plain:


"and thank you for th email.

we did have one of those big sixs here but i just sold it a few
months ago and shipped it to a mna in norway.
the guys dad had built some kind of homemade car or something wth one in it.

anyway the guy want a extra for parts. got 500.00 for it. guy was loading a container here with parts so he could get it home easy and cheap."

So, there it is. Another great part went across the big blue pond.

I would be interested in the one in NV, but I don't drive within 50 miles or so of NV frequently like I do that one.

There were guys here from Germany and Austraila this summer buying and shipping everything they could find. They didn't find me. Beater

With the Australian dollar riding at a bit higher than parity with the US dollar, that's no surprise.

I have to try a bit of that myself one day...

When I bought my wind plant from there in the '70s the Australian dolor was worth 1 and a half of ours. It was a bad deal for me all around. I keep it as a reminder.