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Many older L6, L8 engines are sidevalve, but there are several Types of position and alignment of the valves used. Here's my brief summary.
There are basically four Types of valve seat placement in flathead engines (that I'm aware of), here beginning with the most common.

Type 1: the valve stems are exactly parallel to the cylinder axis (22.5° from vertical in 45° V-twins, 21° in Indians, &c.), and every level of the valve seat (and relief, if present) is parallel to the deck surface (same angles). Relieving is generally indicated to unmask sunken valves.
This Type includes all Indian twins, as well as many automotive engines including the Chrysler 237, 251 & 265, Ply-Do 218 & 230, many lawn mowers, generators & similar industrial engines, but no Harley-Davidson.

Type 2: the valve stems are tilted with respect to the cylinder axis in the fore-&-aft plane (as seen right the side in elevation view), but parallel in the cross-axis. All H-D D, R, W, G, V, & U flathead valves are inclined 4½° from the cylinder axis. The intake and exhaust valves of each cylinder are parallel to each other. Both front cylinder valves tilt forward (27° from vertical), and both rear cylinder valves tilt backward (27°). Every level of the valve seat (and relief) inherits this same angle, and is not parallel to the deck surface. These engines commonly have a machined relief leading from the seat toward the bore.
H-D may be the only representative of this Type.

Type 3: the valve stems are "tilted" toward the bore center in the cross-axis (as seen from the front or rear, or above), but parallel to the cylinder axis in the fore-&-aft plane. The intake and exhaust valves of each cylinder are parallel to each other. Every level of the valve seat (and relief) inherits this same angle, and is not parallel to the deck surface. These engines commonly have a machined relief leading from the seat toward the bore.
This Type includes the Pontiac 239 L6, the Ford V8, but neither H-D nor Indian.

Type 4: the valve stems are tilted with respect to the cylinder axis in both the fore-&-aft plane (like Type 2), and toward the bore center in the cross-axis (like Type 3).Every level of the valve seat (and relief) inherits these same angles, and is not parallel to the deck surface in either plane. The H-D fore-&-aft angles are the same 4½° as Type 2. The intake vs. exhaust angles of these engines differ. These engines commonly have a machined relief leading from the seat toward the bore.
This Type includes the H-D WLDR "Special", WR, K, KH, KR, &c., but no Indian.


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Interesting study of valve-in-block design details. Is the canting of the valves simply the result of camshaft placement in the block? Or are there other considerations/benefits to having the valves canted?

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Breathing is improved, compression loss from relieving is reduced. The port transitions into the relief and deck more smoothly.

The Type 4 early H-D "W" engines (separate transmission) have both angles machined into the tappet blocks (the crankcase is "normal"), the later "K" engines (unit transmission) have concentric tappet blocks with the angles in the right crankcase locations.
All have horizontal cam journals and beveled lobes complementing the cross-plane angles. The "W" engines used solid flat tappets, while the "K" engines used roller tappets, so the lobe shapes are very different even with similar durations.

Many later automotive flathead tuners identify the "K" especially as an influence.


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