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#25534 10/06/05 11:13 PM
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these guys have built the ultimate six! www.inlinesix.com

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Now I'm woundering if this Is The car That has Been Baned from NHRA and Thats why it is now Up for Sale.


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I don't know about "ultimate", but it surely is a great acomplishment and a good video too. \:D

Anyone that sees this will be impressed as well.

"Hats off" to that crew, keep up the good work. \:\)


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What would get a car 'banned' from NHRA??


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my heart has always been with the 250 292 chevys they are capable of a lot of power and torque with relative low mods i am building a 250 that will be injected with six throttle bodies and use the megasquirt efi system of course it will be of the homemade veriety as all my stuff usually is. you can get banned from nhra for being to creative it seems! remember buddy ingersol? buick v6 twin turbo? he was faster than the pro stock class and they boycotted him back in 1986

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You don't have to have a fast car to be banned. In 1975, my Z/SA 65 Valiant with a 170 slant six, could run 1/2 sec under the index. The following year NHRA made a rule change, for Y/S and Z/S, stating "for 4 cyl engines only". They did not change the weight breaks. That meant I would have to race in X/SA, 2 classes higher, at the same weight and horse power as before. Effectivly banning my combo.


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OMG....The politics of Drag Racing.

I quit with it when they started the "dial in" procedure with the 'Christmas tree'. I didn't mind the 'tree' but with the 'dial in' you could get shut down by a Wizzer. What was the point??

I was doing well in C Gas way back then too.

Thanks, I thought saftey points were the only thing.

"Sign of the times"; I guess. Pretty soon Hillary, Bart & Homer will run everyting, FUBAR. :p


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It wasn't that car I just thought it was It was someone else. I'm not sure of all the details But it had to to with the build.


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Oh, okay.

It must have been a 'safety issue' then..


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I think the car in question is this one. This car had a aluminum block when it should of had a cast iron one. I think WJ did the head work also. It racked up a lot of wins & runners ups along with ET records real quick. I have not seen it racing in a long time.

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Dear Steve;

Was iron a class requirement??


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I'm pretty sure you have to run a iron block in that class. I dont have my rule book handy so I cant be 100% on that. I see racers getting fines or points removed for small infractions so getting banned must have meant he did something pretty major!

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Yes, notice the class designation on the hood scoop, E/EA or E/Econo Altered. That class stipulated that production block and head castings be used. That car was using an aluminum block painted black. By the way an E/EA car won Comp Eliminator at the US Nationals at Indy this year (Glen Treadwell, 240 Ford). And he had to run a 204 MPH A/A car in the finals. I personally think there is a lot of drama in staggered start (handicap) racing both from a competitors and a spectators standpoint. It is the great equalizer in class racing.


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The handycap racing...,dial in your ET..,9.90..8.90.., I hate it !!!! Thats when I get up and go get a hot dog...SCRAP


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I don't really see anything wrong with It helps EQ. the classes When you can't fall into anything else.Not everyone can Run Heads Up. They'd have to pay out to much for every class If it wasn't for handycaps. Yeah it does kinda Bite running a 14.3s to a 9.90s But hey what ever works. Thats how I took two wins at One Nostalgia event I took Class win and Class Eliminator \:\)


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I dont care for throttle stop racing. If a car can run 7.90 let it run 7.90 not 9.90at 190 mph. Bracket racing was real big in South Texas 10 years ago. It is pretty much dead now with nice tracks closing down. What has become big is heads up index racing. Indexs keep the cost down with NO bracket racing aids. Cars run heads up with a minimum MPH to keep people from sand bagging. Match racing is really big also. Tracks pay the winner $100 bucks for any confirmed match race every night. I cant wait to get my hoopty running. I got a couple B-block camaro I want to sucker punch \:D \:D \:D

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yeah, i don't really like bracket racing either but if there were no brackets the rich guys would always win. i think that the best classes that i like are comp eliminator,h/pm,and s/s you see alot of wheelies in s/s i like that kind of stuff!

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well bracket seems to be the Only place mine can run in. It's this or that ,That makes mine not legal for most classes. Either cam, Head work, Intake system, carbs so on. Unless I'm not reading it right.SO bracket is the Only place it seems for me.


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The only way my Chevy II is competitive is in brackets. The only class my car would even be close to would be in Super Stock G(?) Modified and I would need to replace my 292 with a 250 to be legal. The class index is in the 10's and I do not have the kind of time or money needed to get the car close to that.

Brackets may be boring to some watching, but it is a heck of a lot of fun to compete. Brackets are also the only reason the sport has survived and grown. We have a club race series, like a bowling league for racers, and you can run anything slower than 9.99. It is broken into 5 classes based on et and driver experience. Average Friday night turnout is over 300 cars. Most if not all small tracks would not exist without brackets.


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Well, like any other game; If you break the rules, your out. Those guys weren't kids & should have known better. ;\)

Those tracks must have a huge liability insurance cost + the overhead to run everything. They probably need 300 cars to stay afloat financialy.

I haven't been to one in years \:\(


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even the bracket cars are expensive anymore,the only thing that bothers me about brackets is the use of computers to improve consistancy that is wrong in my book. the only class that i would run in is foot brake and street. but i guess if i had the money i would build a big dog nitrous car.all we have here is 1/8th mile and those guys are running in the mid 5 sec. range. i will never see those kind of times, even though i keep trying. the fastest we ever came to those times is 6.20 sec. now thats n/a not nitrous with a 292 based headrick engine. i wish ol'e jim was still around,there's no telling how fast his sixes would be now!

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That makes me glad I stuck with the 6 instead of buying a v thing.

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Tigpro- Did you know Jim H. personalty? Mike Kirby told me that before Jims death he (JIM)pretty much had the 292 tapped out for performance. He started building SB chevys. Jim told Mike several times the 292 would make a awsome nitrous motor because of it's bore and stroke. I guess I carry out Jim's wish and build one \:\)

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Tigpro,

Locally the delay box and throttle stop boys run separate from us no-box runners. We can run trans-brakes but that is as radical as it gets.
The advantage of brackets is you can spend a ton of money on a car or next to nothing. For the club races there are full blown race cars to POS street cars. If you can pass tech, you can run.


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bruce,

that's how it goes here in tenn. a bunch of hicks trying to operate a dragstrip! thats exactly why i don't go to the dragstrip anymore. ya know it's a sad day when i can go to the strip with my wifes minivan, and they think i am suposed to race in the super stock class. well not really, but thats what it seems. but they are building a new dragstrip at the nashville super speedway!!! i live (now) about four miles from it and i can't wait till it opens up for racing.(hope the hicks stay put)

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If you guys are tired of all the politics of drag racing, check around, there are meets all over the US that are heads up racing.
I just went to one in August that had five classes.Gas/Coupe/sedan, Comp-Gas/coupe/sedan, roadster, Comp/roadster and dragster class.
Every class was heads up and winners were awarded trophies.
Its not about money, its about bragging rights and having fun.

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The Slant Six Racing News, has a series, that is a combination, of bracket racing and heads up. The rules are "engine must be a Mopar slant six". Any thing else is legal. Car mut meet safety requirements, according to ET. There is qualifing/time trials. Regular race is bracket style. At certain meets the fast four qualifiers, run a separate, "fast 4 shootout". Four tenth Pro tree, first car across the finish line wins. Racing is more like it was back in the old days. Everyone helps each other, if there is a problem.


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