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Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 #63561 03/04/11 01:44 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 6 MO Rev. ken OP Active BB Member
OP Rev. ken Active BB Member Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 6 MO	hi i bought a 230 six an all the rods where off the pistons the rods have a flat top with a bump or lump on one side of the top does that go toward the water pump or what??? thank you for any advice

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 Rev. ken #63565 03/04/11 05:48 AM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,669 Likes: 42 N. Georgia CNC-Dude #5585 1000 Post Club
CNC-Dude #5585 1000 Post Club Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,669 Likes: 42 N. Georgia	Most pistons have a small indention in the piston top toward the edge to designate the front of the piston, that indention faces the front of the engine. Sometimes they even have an "F" cast into the piston on the side by the wrist pin to also designate that side facing toward the front of the engine. Class III CNC Machinist/Programmer

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 Rev. ken #63566 03/04/11 08:36 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 140 Rawson,Victoria,Australia walpolla Contributor
walpolla Contributor Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 140 Rawson,Victoria,Australia	Originally Posted By: Rev. ken hi i bought a 230 six an all the rods where off the pistons the rods have a flat top with a bump or lump on one side of the top does that go toward the water pump or what??? thank you for any advice CNC Dude - I think he needs to know which way the rods go on the crank. ie: facing which way - front or back with the lump he talks about. I do'nt know,otherwise I would tell you Rev.ken. regards,Rod

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 walpolla #63567 03/04/11 10:13 AM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 493 Western Illinois, USA S strokersix Contributor
strokersix Contributor S Joined: May 2009 Posts: 493 Western Illinois, USA	Bearing tangs go opposite the camshaft. Older engines had an oil squirt port around the rod bolt near the cam and corresponding holes in the bearing inserts to lube the camshaft. Pretty sure about this but not 100%. Can someone confirm?

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 strokersix #63568 03/04/11 11:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 48 South Carolina B bristowbob Active BB Member
bristowbob Active BB Member B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 48 South Carolina	Chilton manual says: 1. Notch or "F" on piston towards front of engine. 2. Rod oil spurt hole towards camshaft side of engine. 3. Heavy side of rod bearing towards front of engine.

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 bristowbob #63569 03/04/11 02:14 PM
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JOE LARSON Contributor Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 138 VA BCH, VA	And what might be the result/symptoms if one or more of the items or assemblies was installed incorrectly? 'Just Askin' JOE II# 3486 '48 FLEETLINE AERO http://s639.photobucket.com/albums/uu117/lars62go/

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 bristowbob #63570 03/04/11 02:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 11 Texas W WillH Active BB Member
WillH Active BB Member W Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 11 Texas	Can someone expand on this? Originally Posted By: bristowbob Chilton manual says: 3. Heavy side of rod bearing towards front of engine.

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 WillH #63571 03/04/11 03:48 PM
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OP Rev. ken Active BB Member Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 6 MO	Think i got it now if you look @ the rods from the side where the rod bearings go on the rod not the cap theres a little v shape notch that spits oil @ the cam ?? sound right? and somewhere i read they lean to one side to help with piston slap

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 Rev. ken #63572 03/04/11 04:34 PM
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littlejeep2 Active BB Member L Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 15 GA	Originally Posted By: Rev. ken Think i got it now if you look @ the rods from the side where the rod bearings go on the rod not the cap theres a little v shape notch that spits oil @ the cam ?? sound right? and somewhere i read they lean to one side to help with piston slap As best I can remember, the offset is in the piston pin location to help prevent piston slap, not in rod, something about leverage. I vaguely remember that some stock class drag racers in the 60s used to install their pistons backwards on the small block Chevys (flat tops of course). This was supposed to raise peak HP to come in at a higher RPM. Not sure if it worked or not. How about it CNC Dude, are you old enough to know about this?

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 WillH #63573 03/04/11 05:16 PM
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Ks Fats Active BB Member K Joined: May 2007 Posts: 79 wichita ks	WillH, the rod beam is not perfectly aligned with the centerline of the big end bore :the narrow side of the big end bore goes toward the rear of the engine and the wide (heavy) side goes toward the front....when you look up at the underside of the piston on assembly (if everything is correct) the pinbore will be more or less centered under the piston to equalize the load....when we turned the pistons around on the v things only the piston was reversed; the rod was installed normally, that kept the load centered.....the six cylinder rod is basically the same dimensions as the small journal 283 rod with the exception of the big end width; you do not want unequal loads on one of these or they will make funny looking drain holes in the pan....fats fats

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 littlejeep2 #63574 03/04/11 05:27 PM
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CNC-Dude #5585 1000 Post Club Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,669 Likes: 42 N. Georgia	Your absolutely correct Eddie, that was a trick done by a lot of racers to change the wrist pin offset direction. The pistons wrist pin bores are offset from the factory to reduce piston slap. You also can get a slight increase in deck height by turning the pistons around backwards, if you can stand the piston slap :D. Class III CNC Machinist/Programmer

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 Ks Fats #63576 03/04/11 08:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 11 Texas W WillH Active BB Member
WillH Active BB Member W Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 11 Texas	Thanks Fats! Originally Posted By: Ks Fats WillH, the rod beam is not perfectly aligned with the centerline of the big end bore :the narrow side of the big end bore goes toward the rear of the engine and the wide (heavy) side goes toward the front....when you look up at the underside of the piston on assembly (if everything is correct) the pinbore will be more or less centered under the piston to equalize the load....when we turned the pistons around on the v things only the piston was reversed; the rod was installed normally, that kept the load centered.....the six cylinder rod is basically the same dimensions as the small journal 283 rod with the exception of the big end width; you do not want unequal loads on one of these or they will make funny looking drain holes in the pan....fats

Re: Witch way do the rods go on a chevy 230 L6 WillH #63603 03/06/11 01:34 PM
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stock49 1000 Post Club Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,537 Likes: 15 Medina, Ohio USA	Greetings . . . Here's a great article describing why piston pins are offset: Motorcycles Sacred Cows #17 On a lot of after-market pistons I have seen, there is a little nick machined into the wide side of the piston - which is the opposite side of the crank @TDC when the piston is about to start it's major thrust. With a pressed in rod is there a really a front or back? The offset is in the wrist pin placement on the piston not the rod . . . no? On the stove bolts the rods have a wrist pin bolt which is designed to be installed on the wide/cam side so it is opposite of the major thrust. With pressed in rods does it really matter? regards, stock49

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