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#6630 02/16/05 05:47 PM
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Well I've found a full over haul kit from PAW for $412 on the 194 which includes:

Engine Gaskets
Cast Pistons
Sealed Piston rings
Rod and Main Bearings
Timing chain set with gears
oil pump
Camshaft and Lifters


Now my question is that, is there a book or a website that illustraites on engine rebuilds? I'm a Newb to this and have an idea on most of this except for the camshaft, pistons and lifters.


Just looking for something to point me into the right direction.

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A Motors Manual or Haynes Manual for a vehicle with a 194 will walk you through a rebuild. A 62 to 67 Chevy II or Nova came with that engine. Also a very good source of info is Leo Santucci's book Chevrolet Six Cylinder Power Manual. Leo's book is avail from this website.

The pistons need to have their pins pressed in and out of the connecting rods, a job for a machine shop, and the crank should be cleaned and inspected for possible cutting or polishing by a machine shop too. Since it's you first engine the best thing is to have the block and crank work done before you order the rebuild kit so you can get the correct sized pistons, rings, and bearings. The machine shop will tell you how much, if any, they had to bore the block or turn down the crank journals. Then you order the kit based on that information. PAW is pretty good. I've used their kits several times in the past with good results and they generally offer a choice of quality and levels of performance in most engine kits.

Mike


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Cool thanks. btw I have the power manual. . quite a bit of useful information \:\)

I'll keep an eye out on ebay or so for a Hayes manual on the Chevy II. Thanks for that bit of info.


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Dear Raben;

You might want to check salvage yards for a good running 250/292 engine.

Money spent there would raise the value of the car plus adding a little power etc.

Good luck, John M.......


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Raben....we have talked on phone...I live in Franklin....let me know if I can help....

Lee

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Leelites. . . . pm me your email. I've changed things within the office and lost our stuff \:\(

I remember speaking with you before. Most of the stuff I want to do later this spring/summer I can do myself. But I probably will need either some info or help in replacing the cam, timing chain/gear etc. If I can find a book that describes in some detail on replacing those parts then I shouldn't have a problem \:\)

Thanks man


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You should be able to pick up a Chilton's Repair &Tune up Guide at any one of your Local Parts house (chevy2/Nova 62-79) Or you can contact them at Chilton Book Company Dept.DM Radnor,PA. 19089 part # 6841 You'll find this to be much more USEFULL , over the hayes manual.
And Our L6s don't have timing chains. They are Gear to Gear. And If you plan on making the gear change yourself Be sure to Heat The Gear Before installing it onto the cam. (alum gear)
hope this helps }[oooooo]


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Another good sorce for repair manuals is your local library. Mine has some that are reference only and others that can be loaned out.

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Going to look into an Chilton Manual \:\) Thanks guys.


However of all the places that I thought I wouldn't find anything on. . .I find it at Autozone. . online repair manuals. And best of all, Free. \:\)

Didn't have it on the nova however on a chevy truck dated 1965 or 66, I found some information on engine overhaul for an L6 \:\) Gives me some ideas.


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The info you need for replacing the cam and timing gears is all the same for a 194, 230, and 250 engines. Nothing different there among the lot. The 292 truck motor is the same layout except the fuel pump lobe is in a different location from the car and light duty engines. Generally it is a good idea to install a new cam retainer plate and spacer sleeve when you install a new timing gear. They are still on the shelf at most Chevy dealers and the last one I bought was about 6 or 8 dollars. Both pieces come in a single little plastic bag.

If you can download or otherwise obtain free use of the info then thats 20 odd bucks you'll have for parts.

Mike


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Yup. They don't have a link to download so I copyed and pasted into MS Word so I can print out and used when I get off this afternoon. I want to start tearing into it \:\)

The engine turns over but doesn't start. But since it's over 40 years old, I'm going to do a complete overhaul as I want this thing to last when I get done.


I thought about swapping it out to a 250 or 292 however I'd rather keep it all original for the most part. I understand the 194 is only 120hp, which with all the age probably not even half that today. But it's only going to be a cruiser.


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