Inliners International Forums General Discussion Hi Performance Project 2012 convention

Tlowe,

hard to tell what size the tires are. 245-60-15's?

Exhaust looks good. What size is the single pipe to the muffler?

Should be a better trip w/out turning high RPM's on the highway.

MBHD

Went 243 miles so far. Really likes to go 75mph. Average speed so far is 68.2.
Rear tires are 255/60-15..
We are off again..

These are all "shop made", my shop. Too late to laugh, not too smart either. Beater

Wow Tom, You're really doing it! I like wagons, they're more comfortable to sleep in. I hope you don't have to. How old is your son?

We got 500 miles under our belt.
The single pipe is 2 1/2.
Had tough head wind most of yesterday. 20-30 mph. Ran into bad dust/ wind/ rain / hail in one place. My wiper blades need replaced. The cruise control won't work.
Beater. You have mail.

Have 1150 miles done. All going well. Our butts hurt. Very bad head wind 20-30 mph with gusts unto 55. Had a whirl wind really swing the car . Mileage so far is 17.5. I expect better with flatland and less wind. In salt lake now.

You'll be here tomorrow. I'm just trying to get the '53 back home. It won't be at the convention.

Tom,

Take a min and exit at Bonneville your going to drive right by it. Take a drive out to end of the road. Won't be much to see except the sign. The cafe at the Bville gas station has a LOT of history in it... worth while to stop and have a look.

Also not a lot of gas stations between Elko and Reno...

Salt lake ut to Elco nv. 230 miles. 11.7 gallons. No real wind. But some big hills/ mountains.

We made it. Report later.

We are having a great time. Found the ting not working up to snuff. Fixed that and it runs even better.
Went to see the old harrah collection. Wow to those historical cars.

I want the gray 1911 Franklin roadster in the first room, or the Thomas Flyer, or.......

When computing gas milage figures, one has good accuracy in knowing the amount of distance traveled (if the speedo gear is correct -can be field checked by matching several milage markers along interstates). The other accurate item is how much gas we put into the tank at each fill-up (the gov'mt and interstate regulators keep the gas pumps up to snuff). But taking the milage and dividing it by the volume of gas purchased is not true gas milage. It is just that a ratio of miles traveled /gas purchased(or added to tank). THIS IS NOT FUEL MILAGE BECAUSE WE ARE ASSUMING THAT THIS FILL-UP QUANITY IS WHAT WE CONSUMED! 99% of the time it is not, it is just what we put in.

These filling errors can be minimized by continuing the test over as many fill-ups as possible. It is these errors that enables the fellow next door with the '62 462 inch Lincoln to get 20 + mpg. He knows he went 120 miles and he knows he PUT IN 6 gallons. But the car was sitting tilted with the filler neck down low, impossible to fill properly-probably could not put too much in tank- if level perhaps another two gallon would fit in thus giving him 15MPG-hmmm not much to brag about-but boy 20 SURE IS.

Tom's old '65 has a simple tank compared to a '72 vehicle which has an evaporative emmissions tank, they have odd bumps to their shape to satisfy their need for areas of vapor for cannisters to collect from etc. You can click off gas pumps for days and not fill them up. His will make it a bit easier to fill-up uniformly/accurately.

In order to make this test an accurate venture, a good round trip total should be considered without breaking it into several low milage jaunts.

Sorry to be seemingly pouring rain on the parade, as I am as interested as anyone in seeing if a 250 can deal with 2.56 gears. Any one can short fill a tank and get bragging rights quite easily for only one short distance fill-up-but boy check the milage on that next tank... 13 ??... what happen to the 22?

What a fun week! I think Jake made more friends than I did. We are packing up and pointing east. Don,t know which song is more appropriate. East bound and down or Willy,s song (which I can,t remember right now). The car is getting put in high gear and keeping the throttle down. It is 24 hrs drive time at 75. Report later.
This was by far the largest turnout for a convention.

Honk and wave as you pass by mile marker 160 on I-80 Utah. I live about a quarter mile off your right shoulder.

dunno, do you mean "(Turn out the lights)The Part's Over" also done well by the late (dandy) don meridith or Willie's
"On the road again"
Both pretty well fit the occaision.

Left carson city about 8 arrived winnemucca off to elco

Going through salt lake city now

In Rock springs wyoming. Averaginging 75-80 and getting what looks like 19.9 mph.

Parked for the night. Jake and I are sleeping in the car. In the middle of nowhere wyoming. How peaceful. Got almost 800 miles knocked down from 1650.

Well at least you have Jake to protect you. I think we all made a few friends.

"When You Leave Amarillo, Turn Out the Light" Bob Wills and The Texas Playboys I guess that would be I-40.

Plenty of room in the wagon for sleeping. Not enough padding. In Laramie wy now getting breakfast.

In 1975 My wife and I spent the night in Laramie in the bed of our pickup. I thought we would freeze. It was July!

Not to cold.. Leaving North Platte Neb now.

Bob Wills-wow. I bet you had a dinosaur for a pet when you were little. I eh didnt, but I still like his stuff and the Texas state song (should be) San Antonio Rose yeeah!

That's the unofficial state song. They used to play it for a half hour or forty-five minutes at the start of dances so the crowd would be too tired to brawl.

Are you home yet Tom?

Got to omaha neb. Had a noise.. Found it and fixed it. More on that later. Still seeing 20 mpg. Power is up. Lower altitude. In does moines now. Home in 1.5 hour.

as a sidelight to the gas milage essay above, my son asked if the computer on his '06 GTO would be a good thing for calc'g true gas milage.

his GTO's computer can provide real at the moment milage, as well as milage for a tankful (its 5.7 chevy motor with 3.23axle .69 od can provide 23-24 mpg on the flat long I-30 ft. worth to memphis runs (light car with small frontal area-with a loafing motor).

An interesting challange should be : fillup, set computer, drive a good distance and compare computer's milage vs. gas milage done by manual fillup/pencil style (odometer divided by gas pump) since the computer does know how much fuel was consumed it would be the standard by which the "fillup error" could be judged. I'm gonna get him to try that- it should reinforce earlier statements.

I think the computer is pretty accurate.

I tested my A4 & it is real close.

IIRC, a 06 GTO will have a 6.0 engine, not a 5.7?
I believe a 04 GTO is the only year for a 5.7, & it is not a light car IMO.

I guess they are lighter than the new Camaros, but those are close to 4000 LBS.

MBHD

First day back to work. It is like they have been waiting for me.
Story on the noise. Pull off interstate to get gas, pull ear plugs and hear a singing sound, like exhaust dragging. Great ground off a pipe. Pull into station, fill up start checking things out. Nothing loose. Start it up and sound is back. Jake says the alternator is wiggling. Fan of alternator is hitting upper bracket. Bottom bolt had loosened and lost the nut, washer and pipe like spacer. Bolt still there. Ended up using a 9/16 - 5/8 closed end combo as a spacer and a spare nut. Brushed off and continued ripping home.
All in all the car performed well considering the short time I took to get it ready.
2.56 gears turned 2800 rpm @ 80 mph. Needed a overdrive. In iowa it will pull any hill and accelerate in high gear.

a misspoke, it is a 6.0L, and as he likes to say, its a V8 ALL the time and the world's cheapest 400 hp car. I've driven it on the paved country road around here, and even with the traction control on its a real dancer all thru second (4le65).

Being an Aussie car in America, the parts are now very hard to get, body parts especially--thank you mr Obama for pushing Pontiac into a premature grave.

Lots and lots of room under the hood- no joke, almost like a '55 chevy-you can see the ground all around the motor. His previous Firebirds had half the motor under the windshield--a dropped wrench would never hit the ground!

Tom , so I can't take the suspense. Who won the free beer in Carson City?
I never even guessed your gas mileage and you bought me a beer! Thanks Tom, had a great time. I wonder how Russ made it home?

Steve O

Well when he was here he said something about 17.9 and my guess was 17.7 but I didn't get a beer. I even loaned him my Holley carb book and I guess it's in Iowa. Man you just can't trust these Inliners.

Tom did you stop and let Jake shoot or just make him shoot out the window? Glad you are home safe. I hope the other drivers check in.

I took a stab at it and said 20 mpg, earlier today Tom posted he was getting about 20 mpg on the flatlands

Yeah, but you can't catch him on the flatlands and when you do run him down he's tweaked the milage so he doesn't owe you a beer any more.

LOL beater,
what's the 2 year interest on a owed beer? Incase someone has to wait until the next convention.

We'll have to wait. You can't sneak up on a Hawk-eye out on the prairie. We'll have the advantage again in Colorado.

I get the beer.....!!!! 19.9 + 17.7 = 37.6 / by 2 = 18.8..that is what i said it would be.

I said 18 MPG.

MBHD