Inliners International Forums General Discussion Engines 292 in 65 Chevelle

Has anyone successfully installed a 292 into a 65 Chevelle? Currently I have the stock 230, which has never been rebuilt at all. I found a rebuilt 292 at a killer deal. I know about the PS mount is different and I have some ideas on it, but I'm really concerned with the air cleaner clearing the hood. Is there a recommended type air cleaner advised? In the future I will most likely get the lower profile 4 bbl setup but for now its all stock. Any help is much appreciated.

Dear Ted;

I'm sure someone has.

Check the search section. As I recall that question was discussed a while back. I think the engine is a little longer & taller than the 250.

An air cleaner from Patrick's should work.

Good luck.

i know the block in 1.75" taller than the other sixes, not sure about length though...

theres another member here named 'Chevelle292Wagon' ('64). You may want to try a PM or email.

The 292 is taller, but the same length.

The motor mount and fuel pump are in different locations from your 230. (pass. side)

As for hood clearance, how much do you have now?
If it's less than 2" you may have a problem. If appearances aren't an issue, you may be able to find another air cleaner at a salvage yard that would work better. Just look around.

Ford used a much shorter 1 bbl Holley carb in the 50's and 60's that could also help. Be aware that they came in several sizes and that many of them will be too small for your application. Not sure about the bolt pattern either, you may need to slot the mounting holes. Of course, if you run 2 or 3 of them, then the smaller sizes could work out quite well.

Perhaps waiting to get the 4 bbl setup is the wiser thing to do...

Thanks folks!! I think I'll get the 292 anyway and keep it up on the engine stand till I get the 4bbl setup. I do want to do this swap the right way. Once I get everything I need to do this all in one shot, as I said this is my daily driver. chevyII, thanks for the contact. I'll look him up. I've done some research in the ol' Power Manual, it mentions the changes but not in detail.

You can fit side draft Webers DCOE's. You can find them on Ebay along with manifolds.

Ted, you are also going to have trouble with the sump location on the 292 pan as it does not clear the steering linkage. As for the air breather, If I remember correctly, part of the inner support on the hood was removed on his wagon. Hopefully you will get aold of him or he will see this post. Good Luck

i've got a 65 elcamino with a 292. use the 230 oil pan and pickup. for motor mounts use mid 60's truck six brackets that bolt to the motor. they will accept the tougher v8 motor mounts to fit the frame. on the pass side unbolt the stock frame mount and bolt in a piece of 3/8 steel flat stock to extend toward the front to relocate the frame mount. this is easy to do. air cleaner, this is where it gets tight. i notched the inner hood brace and used a edelbock triagulated foam air filters for a while, the i used a old carberatered buick GN air inlet and mated a remoted filter to it. it looks kind of neat, if your a farmer. i am a partime farmer. tom

Thanks fellas, wow I love this! I'm learning more and more. tlowe I.I. do you have any pictures of your setup? If so, could you email them to me? I have a mental picture going but if yours is done I'd love to see it.

i'll try and get some this week and send them over. tom

Thank you Tom! I appreciate it!

Well folks, as an update, I looked and paid for my 292. Looks great and only paid 150 bucks! Now I just have to find a way to pick it up from the seller and get it home up on my engine stand. What are the recommended size bolts I should get to mount the engine on the stand?

Hi again everyone! Well, I have the 292, offy intake, Holley 4bbl, all looks to be going very well. I'm still getting everything ready so I can install soon. I'm still a hazy on linkage setup. I've seen some pics in other posts I searched, I just can't get a solid plan. I have a new adjustable detent/kickdown cable ordered and I'm probably going to get a universal throttle cable too. I just need a little guidance on what brackets to get or atleast a picture of a fabricated setup to use. Anyone out there help me out??? Thanks!

I run a 292, in my truck [OEM] but added Offy intake, Clifford headers, Edelbrock 500 cfm 4-Bbl [used to run the 390 Holley, but it went sproiiing! after 25 years on the road -- so I went with an AFB type]. I used to have rube goldberg'd throttle/bellcrank apparatus in my '68 C/10 Stepside pick-up. The rube-goldberg rig was never satisfactory -- it could come apart on the road or jam and usually wouldn't go to WOT. When I rebuilt the engine, I reconfigured the throttle set-up to cable type. I swapped in the accelerator pedal and arm from a '72 Chevy pick-up and got a Lokar type throttle cable. A throttle spring adapter [from Jeg's] was necessary to route the cable to the throttle arm on the carb.
It's kind of a hair trigger, but it works.
Since it's in a truck that was originally ordered with the 292, I can't help with conversions for a street car. I used a 3-1/2 x 12" Moroso air cleaner with a K&N element, and I've still got enough space to heat foil-wrapped burritos on the top of the air cleaner.
Twisted 6 knows a lot more about 292s in the light car chassis.

Hello everyone! My time is here. I'm going to do my swap starting tomorrow. I basically have 4 days to do this and I think I planned out everything in sequence as I don't want to screw things up rushing anything. I've learned a lot on I.I. BB so I will put it to use. I'll try to keep a daily update for anyone's interest. Wish me luck!

Hello fellow Inliners, I wanted to give everyone an update. I did my swap by myself in three days. This was my first time ever doing this and I surprised myself. Everything worked out great. And Wow, what a difference!! Here is a link to some pics - http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f301/tedgriffith/65chevelleMalibu292/ My setup does look a little different than in the pics which I will update as soon as I can. Some mods that I had to do was change to cable throttle. I tried to rig up something using the existing rod linkage and well, it worked but not liked I wanted. So what I did was got a gas pedal assembly from an Chevy pickup that used throttle cable and installed it. Needless to say it works awesome and doesn't really change the looks inside the car. I have a Holley 600 4bbl on Offy intake. I didn't make any changes to the carb at all, although I think I should. I'm just a little hesitant cause I'm not a carb guru. Engine runs great but I think it can run better. I have Clifford headers and glasspacks which I'll probably install this weekend or next. Right now I have AC R44XLS plugs. Is this okay? The only reason I did this is because when I bought the motor thats what was in there. If there is anything you guys can suggest, please let me know. If anyone has questions about the swap, I'd be happy to share with everyone.

Ted,
I'm sure someone will be able to help you on the carb and plug advice, but in the meantime I'll say that's a nice clean installation and your add ons and color combos with your Malibu set it off just right.

Congratulations on the engine swap! As far as the plugs I would leave them as is until I had the carb all dialed in with jetting and power valve selection provided they are firing ok. I don't have exact plug numbers for the 292 in front of me but an R45XLS or an R44XLS sounds about right. If it helps any: R = resistor type, 44 is the heat range, XL = extended reach ( long threads , S = supressor tip. The 44 is one heat range step cooler than the 45. Also be aware that AC Delco has dropped some plugs out of production and use a single number to replace 3 or more of the older numbers.

I'm sure that 292 woke your Malibu right up! Enjoy.

Ted,

Sweet! Man your snorkle is cool looking. Where did you get it from?

Thanks guys!!! Mike, I appreciate the info on the plugs, I never did know what the XLS meant. Redchevy, I contacted a fellow I.I. member and he happened to have an extra, so I bought it from him. If you look on ebay you can find them but I have yet seen a chrome one.
Hopefully, after state inspection, I'll put the headers and glass packs on.
Where should I start on the carb? I think its running a little rich (little black smoke and fuel smell at start up).

ted, looks great. how did you do the pass side motor mount? i can see the big plate on the motor but nothing else. tom

Tom, what I did was got a hold of 1/4" steel plate and basically just offset the mounting holes and eliminated the mechanical fuel pump. The new holes just cleared the fuel pump area. The lower left mount hole was tapped and the other two have grade 8 bolts and nuts w/lockwashers. The plate is actually mounted to the engine with five bolts (three existing, and two on the fuel pump holes). The two bolts on the fuel pump area are allen style and countersunk so the original (230) engine mounts clear. I just took a few measurements and nailed it the first time through. The plate is also used as a block off plate for the fuel pump. The 292 slipped in like a glove. I'll get more pics on the link above tomorrow and show the finished product. Thanks again Tom for all of your advice, it proved valuable to my install. -Ted

As I promised Here's some more pics: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f301/tedgriffith/65chevelleMalibu292/ Better pics of the pass mount and basically updated pics of what the engine looks like today. Today I installed the headers and glasspacks, definitely louder!!

wow, that setup looks great. does anyone know who makes the snorkel setup (maybe it'd work in the nova?

chevyII, that snorkel came stock in buick turbo charged cars from the 80's. only on the carbed version, so early 80's, probably ending in 83. tom

Very nice car! Nice pics!
What brand radiator are you useing?

Hello fellas! I've been busy lately getting ready for my third tour to Iraq. Anyways, Hank, my radiator is made by Northern. It has two one inch horizontal cores. I tell ya, being here in Texas, the original brass two core wasn't cutting it. Now, its a cool 180, even in 104 degree heat we had today. The best single upgrade I've ever made. Ted

My goodness,third tour in Iraq! God Bless You and your family.Hope you can check in on Inliners via the net during your tour.You have a great looking Chevelle,by the way.Good Luck!

Thanks Drew, your support is very appreciated. Putting all politics aside, we soldiers truely love the support we get, it keeps us going. I will definitly be checking in on Inliners when I get there. Thank you, Ted.

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I just wanted to say that where I work now, in Fairfield, Oh., they paint & retrofit the Humvees with armor and bullet proof glass. There is a constant stream of Camo-painted Humvees streaming through the streets 24 hours a day.
I am constantly reminded that we can drive to work, shop, practice any religion, and drive and work on our hobbies in safety because of dedicated men and woman like yourself.

I salute you and pray that all return home soon and safely.

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Hello All!!! Greetings from Baghdad, Iraq!! I finally got a chance to get online and I figured I'd let you all know I'm here and SAFE!! Soon I'll be able to check in more often with Inliners BB as I'm in the process of getting a better internet service installed. Any ways, thought I'd give you an update. I look forward to surfing the BB to see what I've missed the past 3 1/2 months. Thanks for the support!!!
-TED

Thanks be to God that you're alive and able to think about something as mundane as inline engines! We hope that you will soon be out of Iraq, and that you will not have to return.

May the Peace of God dwell always with you, wherever you are.

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Ted
Greetings to you and I just wanted to thank you for your efforts to make the world a safer place for us to live in. Have a grand and glorious holiday season (as much as possible where you are at) but most all be safe and healthy.
God's Love and grace to you,
Big Bill

Ted, Certainly glad to hear from you and happy to see you can check in once in awhile on Inliners. You and and the 4 servicemen nephews from our families currently serving around the world(including Iraq)and all servicemen and women of the US have this familys support and admiration.

Ted, Great to have you checking in. My family & I appreciate all you and your buds' are doing for us and this country, we can only imagine the extent of the work and sacrifice necessary. to you all and your families we say THANK YOU. (keep it on Fox News) and check back often.

Ted,
Take care of yourself and come back home safe. Your hard work and sacrifice in Iraq is very much appreciated by your fellow freedom-loving Americans, we can't possibly thank you enough.

Best regards, Bart