With methanol injection, it will allow you to run even more timing, which will give you more power. It would be almost like running race gas on pump gas,plus waaaay less spendy than actually buying race gas, & with this bad economy plus you not haveing extra $$$ to buy race gas,, it just makes sense to go w/the more affordable way for now..
As far as having to rejet & adjust the carb to use methanol injection? Yes, you will most likely need to do so. Shoot for 10.5-11.0 A/F ratio when injecting methanol.
I was so surprized how much faster my Syclone ran when I switched to a better methanol injection system. The top end power is where I noticed it the most (it improved everywhere also.), plus it allowed me to run 24 psi on pump 91 octane fuel. It really is that incredible. You are only going to be able to advance your timing so much when you add an intercooler, when you also add a methanol injection on top of your intercooler, you will be able to run more agressive timing curve & more total timing, that will equal more power.
I would like to think I somewhat steered you in the right direction on parts to get & when I said for you to go turbocharged when others were telling you to just go natuarally aspirated for now,get a .96 A/R turbine housing, cast pistons won't work etc, etc, etc.
Basically saying, I dont just try & give you all this hype about turbos are the way to go for no good reason, you are seeing the reasons first hand & are getting rewarded for your hard work.
That little 6 you got going is a stock engine w/bolt-on parts, just think what it will run when you get it all tuned & running correctly w/the good supporting parts.1)Fuel pump and reg 2)MSD box 3)Intercooler 4)Meth Injection
And later on, how good a purpose built turbo inline would run.
When running a methanol injection system, you can have it so it just basically super chills your intake temps & does not add too much meth,,( your A/F ratio should not change too much, requiring rejetting,modding the PVCR,etc) or you can have it so it can add a lot more fuel super chill your intake temps & add more octane it will throw off your A/F ratio when using a lot of methanol, but engines have run still really good when running 9.8-10.0 A/F ratio on pump gas also, it is really easy to adjust. My Syclone still ran great when the A/F ratio was 10.0 (when I first started messing the the meth injection kit) I eventually leaned it out & my engine seemed to like 10.5 -10.8 A/F ratio, all on pump 91 octane.
Running a lot of meth & adding a lot of timing will give you the most power, but it will also be on the edge of living & blowing up, meaning, if it fails (the meth injection) & you are running a lot of boost & a lot of timing,, the engine will be destroyed very quickly. You can run the meth system, inbetween just adding a little or adding a lot also. All depends on your goals.
I think I am the only advocate of running methanol injection here it seems,,,but like I told you before, it is really worth your trouble to use it. I know I cannot afford to use race gas in my Syclone to drive it on the street, thats why methanol makes so much sense to me to use it. Cost less, but like I said, it is more risky if something fails or jet nozzle gets plugged, etc. I told Tlowe years ago to put a methanol injection kit on his Elky, but no bite.
I'll look for a better pump, I did not know you are planning on running 20 psi. As far as a cheaper fuel regulator, hard to say to find a cheaper less $ one, but I'll look.
MBHD
BTW, when I advise using methanol I mean using 100% methanol, no water. It's been proven time & time again on dyno runs & track runs, you will make more power running 100% methanol.
Only drawback, you cannot see methanol burn (in case of a fire) & it is more of a fire hazard than mixing methanol & water.
Methanol kits have come a long way in the last few years. Systems years ago, used a weak windshield wiper pump or simular, low pressure low volume 10 psi or so. Pumps now go as high as 250 psi, that equals better vaporiztion, no droplets.
I had an old Edlebrock NOS VINTAGE EDELBROCK 9356 VARA JECTION WATER INJECTION water injection system, years ago, 15 -20 years ago, had a weak windshield pump motor & a nozzle that you would drill your air cleaner lid & install a nozzle, very crude system that realy did not do much but add droplets down your carb, I guess it cleaned the chambers & piston tops @ most. Not too much adjustable, & the newer meth systems have better fuel curves throughout the entire rpm range. Much more accurate fuel metering. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http...9QEwAA&dur=3648 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http...9QEwCw&dur=1749
Originally Posted By: snowman4839
Hank - I understand that an intercooler would boost power by giving more power by a denser charge. But why would meth increase power? It seems like meth is a safety device more than a power-adder. Because with the amount of advance you'd have with an intercooler, it seems like any more advance would start to diminish the return? I hope that made some sense? Also, if I added a meth injection kit, would I need to resize my power valves? Would I need to add less gas because it's adding the meth? SO like if I tune my car like it is now and drill the PVCR to where it's dead on, will a meth injection kit throw that off?
