IIRC that read about the 3.06 first gear th350 in a off road fourm. Think rock crawling. In a auto trans the converter softens the drop somewhat compared to a manual. Like was posted on this thread before, a looser converter would help cover the drop better than a stock unit. Looks like to me those GM engineers were on to something. How well do these o.d. auto transmissions work without lock up? Does it overheat the trans like i have heard or is that just a myth? Jay